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his
day, 16th of January 2001, was the longest session of the trial.[1] Also
nobody could probably have expected that this would be the last, the 23rd
session day of the trial that started on 7 December 2000.
Jun
Davide, the Presiding Officer, opened the day’s trial by informing the
senator-judges that they need to act on two pending motions.
One
was whether the opening of the second envelope would be allowed or not. The
Defense had earlier objected to Prosecution’s attempt to open the envelope in
open court.
The
second motion also pertained to the objection by the Defense to “the request
for the issuance of subpoenas duces tecum to different banks involving
the following accounts allegedly made by the parties to be enumerated--the
alleged accounts of Laarni Enriquez, Guia Gomez, Joyce Melendrez; the accounts
of one indicated as Kevin Garcia; the accounts alleged to be in the name of
Jose Velarde; certain accounts without names of depositors; and, finally,
accounts alleged to be in the name of the Respondent and/or Mrs. Luisa
Ejercito, whether singly or jointly.”
Davide
gave both the Prosecution and the Defense 15 minutes each to present oral
arguments for or against the twin motions. But before the presentation of oral
arguments, the court heard the testimony of Oswaldo Santos, the Prosecution’s
witness for the day.
Santos
testified that he investigated the whereabouts of the Erap Muslim Youth
Foundation. He said he came out with the conclusion that the Foundation did not
hold office in the address its incorporation documents said it was holding
office.
Also
earlier, before Santos’ testimony, the Defense agreed to the motion by the
Prosecution that Anton Prieto, who earlier was presented as a witness for the
prosecution, be withdrawn and his testimony stricken off the records.
Then
came the fireworks on the motion by the Defense to prevent the Prosecution from
opening the second envelope submitted by the Equitable-PCI Bank pursuant to a
subpoena issued by the court.
Davide
first called the Defense, as movant, to present its oral arguments. Mendoza
argued for the Defense.
“All
of these issues,” Mendoza opened his statement, “we are to deal with this
afternoon, Your Honors, involve the jurisdiction of the Senate to try and
decide alleged acts of the Respondent, not alleged in the Articles of
Impeachment. There are subsidiary issues with respect to certain accounts
because they are not in the name of the Respondent. I will deal with them at
the end of my arguments.”
On
the whole the Mendoza arguments were aimed at convincing the court that the evidence
being offered by the Prosecution could not be admitted because the alleged
crimes they sought to prove were not part of the charges against Erap brought
by the House of Representatives to the Senate for trial. These pieces of evidence,
as the Defense often objected, were “immaterial and irrelevant.” One may also
note that the Defense has introduced another concept—the notion of
“jurisdiction.”
“Records
show,” Mendoza went on, “that he and his wife and mistresses and their children
have other interests in other companies outside of the three firms listed in
his statement of assets Annex C hereof. …So, what is alleged as a factual basis
of the assertion that the President violated his sworn statement by committing
perjury and the offense of unexplained wealth, incidentally, there is no such
offense, as he simply limited to the failure to state in his Statement of
Assets and Liabilities other, that is, ‘other interests in other companies
outside of the three firms listed in his Statement of Assets and Liabilities.’
As I said, insofar as the cash assets, there is nothing whatsoever here.
“Now,
it will be noted, if Your Honors please, in Annex ‘C’. Annex ‘C’ is a
comprehensive list of corporations in which the Respondent is supposed to have
other interests which… interests, rather, which he did not declare in his
statement of assets. All in all, these corporations numbered 88 corporations.
Some Table II of the President, Table III, Guia Gomez; Table IV, Laarni
Enriquez; Table V, Joseph Victor Ejercito; Table VI, selected companies of
Estrada and his families.
“So
insofar as corporate interests, if Your Honors please, what need to be
determined is whether in the case of the second envelope, St. Peter’s Holdings
is listed… is among these corporations listed in Annex “C”.
“As
far as the second envelope is concerned, if Your Honors please, we may deduce
from the application that the intention is to establish that the check which
was supposed to have funded the payment for what we call the Boracay mansion,
purchased by St. Peter’s Holdings, was funded ultimately from Savings Account
No. 016062501-5, and that is why what is sought now to be produced is the
Statement of Account for October 1 to 31, 1999.
“It
may be recalled, if Your Honors please, that when on December 15, December 20,
the first envelope was opened, it was found that in that envelope there were
the applications to open accounts, specimen signatures, et cetera, of Account
No. 11025494-5, as well as microfilm copy of Equitable Bank check number. Those
were what were in the first envelope.
“Now,
what is now sought to be produced is the statement of account of a savings
account, which we assumed, the Prosecution contend, will show that the check
which was used to fund the price for the payment of, what we call, the Boracay
mansion in the name of St. Peter’s Holdings was funded from this
statement--from this savings account.
“So,
in effect, what is now asserted is to prove that the President was the one who
acquired the Boracay mansion through St. Peter’s Holdings. But as we have
stated, St. Peter’s Holdings is not among the corporations listed in Annex ‘C’.
“There
is one other flaw, if Your Honors please. After the first envelope was
opened–which should have been the premise, assuming my assumptions are correct
in regard the second envelope–not any of the documents in the first envelope
was marked as an exhibit. So that if the papers in the first envelope are the
predicates for the opening of the second envelope, that predicate does not
exist because the papers which were found in the second envelope have not been
marked as exhibits, much less established as belonging to the President.
“These
issues we raised, if Your Honors please, go beyond the issue of relevancy. They
go to the issue of jurisdiction. Whether the jurisdiction of the Senate to try
and decide this case goes beyond--can go beyond the specific factual
allegations of the Articles of Impeachment, it is our submission that the
Senate is without jurisdiction to try and decide any acquisition based on any
act other than those which are specifically alleged in the Articles of
Impeachment.
“As
to the other subpoenas, if Your Honors please, there are accounts even far
remote from the account supposedly related to the acquisition of a property by
St. Peter’s Holdings. They involve cash assets or their equivalent. Well,
perhaps, as far as the accounts of President--in the name of President Estrada
and the First Lady, assuming that cash assets are contemplated, are covered by
the Articles of Impeachment, we may say they are within the jurisdiction of the
Court. But you have other accounts which are the subject of subpoena duces
tecum. Some of the subpoenas apply for subpoena duces tecum to be
directed to account numbers without any name. How can the relevancy, the fact
that these are covered by the Articles of Impeachment, be determined on the
basis of the application?
“Similarly,
you have this Kevin Garcia, Jose Velarde and other names, which are not in the
names of the President, and not even in the names of Laarni, Guia Gomez. They
cannot be presumptively--they cannot be deemed as presumptively belonging to
the Respondent.
“There
is other one noteworthy, if Your Honors please, regarding these applications
for subpoena. It will be recalled that it was agreed among the parties
that when a subpoena duces tecum is applied for, the particular check,
if it were a check, which would show the relevancy of the application would be
indicated and that beyond that, there cannot be comprehensive or catch-all
phrase to cover all documents and records in that account. These applications
for subpoena duces tecum have sought to circumvent the agreement that
there should be no comprehensive clause in subpoena duces tecum addressed to
banks. What the Prosecution has done is to list everything that one may find in
a bank account or ledgers or accounts except that instead of saying all
ledgers, all accounts, they have now specified these one by one. That is why,
if Your Honors please, the applications for a subpoena duces tecum have
enumerations of documents covering about two pages in single space of
documents.
“As
a matter of fact, if Your Honors please, in the case of the second envelope,
assuming that that is within the jurisdiction of the Senate, what should only
the subpoena duces tecum should be limited only to what is necessary to
determine whether the check that was drawn on the current account was funded
from the savings account. It would be inappropriate, even assuming that
purpose, to expose the entire statement of account for that month, much less
any other document pertaining to that savings account. As a matter of fact,
assuming that the Court does not sustain us on the jurisdiction issue and that
the Prosecution’s desire is simply to establish that the check was funded from
that savings account, we would be willing to stipulate on that assuming that
that is the purpose.
“So,
then, if Your Honors please, the issue is not really that complicated, but it
is an issue which we have raised many times in this trial. Unfortunately, there
has really been no definitive ruling on this. Perhaps it is time that a ruling
be made because what has happened really, when the first envelope was opened,
we raised that issue. But then the whole–the documents had already been
exposed, and so we said, since the matter has been made practically public, we
agreed not to pursue our motion for reconsideration but reserving our right to
object on the matter of materiality or jurisdiction. Similarly, when the
Clarissa Ocampo testimony was made, we likewise objected, but the testimony was
allowed to be given, although conditionally given.
“So,
the issue before the Court, if Your Honors please, is simply whether the
Articles of Impeachment contain any allegation of fact to show that the act,
the alleged act of the President in having cash assets or interest in
corporations other than those listed in Annex ‘C’ are sufficiently alleged in
the Articles of Impeachment so that the Senate would have jurisdiction to try
and decide them.
“I
recall, if Your Honors please, that when Senator-Judge Revilla was propounding
questions to the witness, to the Pagcor witness, he said, ‘Kaya tayo nandidito ngayon, eh, alam nating lahat, dahil lang kay
Chavit Singson. Kung wala iyong si Chavit Singson, wala tayo rito ngayon, eh.
Sapagkat ganoon po nag-umpisa itong asuntong ito, eh. Iyong reklamo ni Chavit
Singson, puro po Chavit Singson iyon, eh.’ (We all know that the reason why
we are all here, it’s merely because of Chavit Singson. If there was no Chavit
Singson, we will not be here. Because that was how this case started. That
gripe by Chavit Singson, all because of Chavit Singson.)”
When
the turn for Senator-judges to ask questions came, some tended to favor
Mendoza’s views, others raised doubts.
Questions
by Enrile, Roco, Cayetano, Drilon and Pimentel were examples.
Enrile
wanted the Defense lawyer to emphasize that the Prosecution cannot introduce
any evidence the later might have taken fancy on. He asked: “If Article 2 of
this Articles of Impeachment simply alleged: ‘The President should be impeached
because (1) he violated the Constitution and he stands guilty of graft and
corruption; (2) that he violated the Anti-Graft Law; and that he committed
perjury and is guilty of the offense of an unexplained wealth,’ would that be a
sufficient statement of ultimate facts to warrant the introduction of evidence
to prove these allegations, assuming that these are the ultimate facts alleged
in this Article 2 of the Articles of Impeachment?”
Mendoza:
“These are the only ultimate facts—”
Enrile:
“Yes.”
Mendoza:
“–and it will be arguable whether these constitute either graft or corruption
as contemplated by the Constitution. I would assume that not every graft and
corruption is contemplated by the Constitution as an impeachable offense. And
whether or not also perjury, which is not among the crimes listed in the
Constitution, may be considered a high crime.”
Roco
disagreed with Mendoza on the interpretation of the law.
Roco:
“… And Section 13 speaks — prohibits the President during his tenure from
directly or indirectly practicing any profession, or participating in any
business, or any special privilege granted by the government, et cetera. Now,
would not these charges be read in the context of the Constitution?”
Mendoza:
“But the focus of my entire argument, if your Honor please, – “
Roco:
“Yes.”
Mendoza:
“–is not so much on the statement or the conclusion, but the statement of
facts. Because what we are discussing really is whether having allegedly —
allegedly having certain cash deposits in banks or having allegedly interest in
St. Peter’s Holdings, not among those alleged in Article 2, falls within the
jurisdiction of the Senate to try and decide and then, ultimately, to convict
or acquit the President. That is simply the issue.
“Whether
those may fall under other provisions of the Constitution, that is not the
question. The question is whether… we are now dealing on whether subpoena duces tecum may be issued as
regards certain bank accounts.”
Roco:
“That is how you read it, but under the piece of paper …”
Mendoza:
“That is the issue.”
Roco:
“Yes, that is how you read it, but that is not how others may read it. Because
Article 2 says that Estrada violated the Constitution. In other words, it is
not ‘and.’ It says, ‘Stands guilty of graft and corruption,’ in small letters,
not Anti-Graft Law as in the second paragraph, so that the Constitution is
always understood to be read in all these pleadings as part of the charges.”
Mendoza:
“Well, if your Honor please–but Your Honor does not continue the sentence–this
is just like saying, ‘The accused has violated the Revised Penal Code.’”
Roco:
“No, the only ….”
Mendoza:
“That charge can just be…can evidence of murder, robbery, theft, rape be
introduced? That is the issue. When there is an information charging an accused
of having committed murder because he killed so and so on such and such a date,
that is the only offense that is triable by the Regional Trial Court. And
insofar as impeachment cases, it is even more stringent because a Regional
Trial Court has general jurisdiction, but a Senate has limited jurisdiction,
and that limited jurisdiction encompasses only the Articles of Impeachment
which were forwarded to the Senate by the House of Representatives.”
Roco:
“We have something more to say about that, but the time does not seem to allow,
although I would register an objection because there is no rule and there was
no agreement about this two-minute rule as regards arguments with Counsel.
Still, the only reason I called attention to ‘violated the Constitution,’ —I
did not read the whole paragraph—is because I’m restricted by the two-minute
rule. The fact is that these charges are read, and I read from your text, ‘that
President Estrada violated the Constitution.’ And then, it says, ‘And stands
guilty of graft and corruption.’ So that that violation of the Constitution
could only refer to Section 13 of Article VII which prohibits the President
from engaging in business.”
Mendoza:
“But there is no period there, Your Honor. You made a full stop where there is
no basis for doing that.”
Roco:
“No, no, no.”
Cayetano
had an issue with the suggestion that the impeachment process be conducted in a
manner that was similar to that of a criminal procedure. He remarked that “…the
Defense has, from the very beginning, I note, proceeded from the theory that
the impeachment is a criminal proceeding.”
Mendoza:
“No, Sir.”
Cayetano:
“And that is why…Yes. In fact, I heard no less than my good friend, Chief
Justice Narvasa, argue that this is in the nature of a criminal proceeding.
“The
point is, if indeed this were a criminal proceeding, I would agree with my
professor that we should apply the strict rules of evidence. But I think there
is no precedent. Can you cite any precedent that an impeachment proceeding is
criminal in nature?”
Mendoza:
“The proposition I submit would apply whether the proceedings are criminal,
civil, political, whatever you may say. The proposition I submit is premised on
the constitutional provision which provides that the House of Representatives
has the exclusive power to impeach, and the Senate has the sole power to try
and decide the Articles of Impeachment forwarded by the House of
Representatives. That is the premise. And we need not decide, it need not be
decided whether the proceedings are criminal, whether they are civil. The fact
is that the position of the Defense is predicated on the Constitution. It is
jurisdictional. It is not a question of relevancy anymore. It is a matter of
jurisdiction.”
Cayetano:
“Yes. In fact, I was wondering why you raised that because as the sole arbiter
of the impeachment, the Senate has jurisdiction for as long as the impeachment
complaint is just.
“Anyway,
the point is…. that is why we have the Senate Rules which say that rules on
Procedure and Evidence should be liberally construed, because we consider this
as a political process and not as a criminal proceeding. And that is why, I was
wondering, Mr. Professor, if we follow our Senate Rules on Impeachment, that
Rules of Evidence should be liberally construed, I am saying, at least, as a
proposition.”
Drilon
doubted if Mendoza’s statement of facts and analysis were adding up. Some of
his questions below:
Drilon:
“Atty. Mendoza, in your opposition to the opening of the second envelope, you
expressly stated that you are opposing the opening of the second envelope for
the indicated purpose of retrieving or obtaining the statement of account for
S/A No. 016062501-5. Is that correct?”
Mendoza:
“If you are reading from it, it must be correct. I don’t have it on hand, Your
Honor.”
Drilon:
“Yes, I am reading. Now, is it not a fact that S/A No. 016062501-5 is owned by
President Joseph Ejercito Estrada?”
Mendoza:
“No, Sir. There is no such evidence.”
Drilon:
“May I ask Atty. Mendoza to read page 56 of the transcript of stenographic
notes dated January 2, 2001, as testified to by Ms. Clarissa Ocampo.”
Mendoza:
“I do not have the transcript. But, if Your Honor please, as far as I can
recall the testimony of Mrs. Ocampo, she said that the signature card for the
Trust account was signed by President Estrada. She did not refer at all to
savings account number whatever.”
Drilon:
“Exhibit ‘XXX’, Your Honor, says: ‘This is to authorize you to debit my
Savings/Current Account No. 016062501-5 maintained with your branch in the
amount of P500 million and credit my Trust Account No. 10178056 representing my
initial contribution. Signed Jose Velarde,’ and this was testified to by
Clarissa Ocampo as having been signed by the President in her presence. Is this
not proof that the President owns, in fact, S/A No. 016062501-5?”
Mendoza:
“Perhaps, I may grant that it is proof. But it does not necessarily establish
that the account belongs to President Estrada, and it does not necessarily
negate the basic proposition that I have submitted to the Senate that these
cash assets are not covered by the Articles of Impeachment. In fact, if Your
Honor please, as far as the jurisdictional argument I have submitted, I am
assuming that these may be considered account of the President. But assuming
that they are, they are not covered by the Articles of Impeachment.
“As
I said, there is no direct evidence on that savings account. As a matter of
fact, when the first envelope was opened, the signature cards were there. But
the Prosecution did not even mark as exhibits the basic documents insofar as
the St. Peter’s Holdings account is concerned. They did not mark that. That
would have been the more relevant evidence to link the President to this
savings account. But as far as that is concerned, there is no evidence
whatsoever.”
Drilon:
“Couldn’t the Prosecution now mark that in evidence?”
Mendoza:
“If Your Honor please, at this stage, we are acting on the basis of the facts
before the Court.”
Drilon:
“Now, do you recall if the signature cards of the first envelope contain a
referral to Savings Account No. 016062501-5?”
Mendoza:
“I do not recall. I do not think the signature card makes a referral to
savings–I really don’t know, Your Honor. I cannot remember. Because they were
not marked as exhibits, we did not get copies of those, and we really did not
pay close attention to those documents anymore.”
Drilon:
“Now, already marked in evidence are the Statements of Assets and Liabilities
of the President for the periods ending December 31, 1998, and December 31,
1999. In those two documents, his cash in bank did not at all reach P500
million. That is of record.”
Mendoza:
“Whatever it is, it is not alleged that he did not declare in his Statements of
Assets and Liabilities that he had cash assets beyond that.”
Guingona
showed observers why lawyers made a living out of words and how they were used.
Guingona:
“Is it not a fact that the Articles of Impeachment alleges violation of the
anti-graft law that he as the President is sworn to uphold?”
Mendoza:
“The Articles of Impeachment alleges violation of the anti-graft law. That is a
conclusion of law.”
Guingona:
“Yes.”
Mendoza:
“And then it follows to state the facts upon which that alleged violation was
committed.”
Guingona:
“Yes. But in the Preliminary Conference, it was agreed that the basis of this
would be the law itself.”
Mendoza:
“No, Sir.”
Guingona:
“Yes.”
Mendoza:
“May I read the Preliminary Conference paper?”
Guingona:
“As a matter of fact, there was an argument as to whether there was bribery in
what sense? And it was agreed in that conference that the basis of the charges
would be the facts charged in the law itself. And this law, anti-graft law,
Section 8, specifically charges that if an incumbent public official is shown
to have amassed incomes disproportionate to his legitimate source of income and
other lawful sources, then he is subject to suspension or dismissal, and this
does not qualify or is limited to certain corporations alone. Unexplained
wealth is unexplained wealth, where the Prosecution has the opportunity of
showing what the law says.
“And
so, therefore, Atty. Mendoza, is it not a fact that as long the Prosecution can
establish that there is unexplained wealth even outside of the corporations
which you claim to be limited or restrictive, then the Prosecution is within
its rights?”
Mendoza:
“First of all, if Your Honors please, may I refer again to the Preliminary
Conference Order. This is stated very clearly as follows:
“Article
2. Whether on the basis of the facts alleged, not on the basis of the
conclusions alleged, on the basis of facts alleged therein, the President could
be guilty of graft and corruption.
“Second,
as far as the unexplained wealth part of the question is concerned, the
Articles of Impeachment says: ‘The President by that sworn statement also
committed perjury and the offense of unexplained wealth.’ But the sentence does
not end there. It says, ‘because records show that he and his wife and
mistresses,’ et cetera. What follows are the statement of facts on the basis of
which he is being accused of having committed perjury and having unexplained
wealth.”
Nene
Pimentel tested how liberal Mendoza could go in the interpretation of the
impeachment rules. Mendoza said his concern was not what the impeachment rules
said, it was what the Constitution said.
Excerpts:
Pimentel:
“If I’d follow the drift of your argument, it looks like you would like to
limit the Prosecution to prove only that the President is probably liable for
not stating completely that he, his wife and his children have business
interests in only three corporations. Is that correct?”
Mendoza:
“If Your Honors please, I am not trying to limit the Prosecution. I am saying
the Prosecution is limited by the Articles of Impeachment.”
Pimentel:
“As stated, among other things, by No. 3 and No. 4, is that correct, in this
handout that you gave us?”
Mendoza:
“Yes, Sir. The handout is simply a copy of the Articles of Impeachment.”
Pimentel:
“Yes, but precisely because of that, I could sense, I could detect some fallacy
in your argument for the reason that precisely in No. 4, the President is being
charged that he and his wife and mistresses and their children have other
interests in other companies outside of the three firms listed in his Statement
of Assets and Liabilities. This to my mind, is a statement of fact.”
Mendoza:
“Yes, Sir. But what follows is, there is Annex ‘C’.”
Pimentel:
“Correct, correct. But if you limit them to Annex ‘C’, you are effectively
precluding their right to prove that outside precisely of the firms that are
listed, the children have other interests in other companies.
Mendoza:
“I am not trying to preclude the Prosecution, Your Honor. It is the Articles of
Impeachment which precludes the Prosecution from introducing such evidence.”
Pimentel:
“Exactly. But this is a part of the Articles of Impeachment.”
Mendoza:
“Yes, Sir.”
Pimentel:
“And therefore, the Prosecution should have every right to prove that there are
other interests of the President and his wife and mistresses and children in
other companies outside of the firms listed in the Statement of Assets and
Liabilities.”
Mendoza:
“Only those listed in Annex ‘C”.
Pimentel:
“Ah, but exactly the wording ‘outside’ means it is not included in the
enumeration. Wouldn’t you think so?”
Mendoza:
“May I again call attention to the fact that Annex ‘C’ must have been a very
deliberate, conscious and exhaustive effort to name the corporations. Because
Annex ‘C’ contains the names of 88 corporations.
Pimentel:
“All right. And when you talk of ‘other interests,’ couldn’t that, by a broad
interpretation of the Rules on Evidence, include cash accounts also?
Mendoza:
“No, Sir.”
Pimentel:
“Why not?”
Mendoza:
“Interests in corporations are equity interests.”
Pimentel:
“How about in companies? Couldn’t the word ‘companies’ include banks?”
Mendoza:
“No, Sir, because a deposit account is a loan. The relationship between a
depositor and the bank is of debtor and creditor.”
Pimentel:
“Correct, if you are very strict about the interpretation. But the word
‘interest,’ I would suppose, could include any financial or other interests in
any company or other banks.
Mendoza:
“I am just invoking the Constitution, Your Honor. I am not being either strict
or liberal; I am invoking the Constitution.”
When
the court was done with questions related to the oral arguments presented by
the Defense, it turned to what the Prosecution had to say.
Joker
Arroyo took the floor. He argued for the opening of the second envelope.
Arroyo:
“The President’s Counsel raised the question of jurisdiction. To those
experienced in proceedings before the Supreme Court when the issue of
jurisdiction is raised, that means that, perhaps, the President would, if the
decision is adverse to the President, would take this up to the Supreme Court.
We cannot dictate to the Defense the course of action, but I am, I have been
alarmed by the constant repetition of jurisdiction. In fact, this is a
challenge to the Court’s jurisdiction if the decision is favorable to us.
“This
Court is composed of 22 members. Only seven are senators…ah only seven are
lawyers. The rest or two-thirds belong to different disciplines but not the
law. It is to them that I am addressing this, the position of the Prosecution,
because the lawyers in this Court can take care of themselves.
“In
1974, when President Nixon was poised to be charged before the U.S. Senate, the
Senate drafted rules precisely in anticipation that in case President Nixon is
charged or impeached by the U.S. House, then they are prepared. President Nixon
resigned before he was charged and, therefore, there was no use for the Senate
Rules.
“Those
Senate Rules made in 1974 for President Nixon was the Rules used in the Clinton
trial. Why do I mention this? There’s too much complaint about the way the
Complaint has been drafted. True, this could have been done better. True, it
could have been worded better. The fact is, this was prepared by cause-oriented
groups, prepared by nongovernmental organizations, prepared by trade union
people. It was given to the House. The House, constituting about 105 or over
the one-third vote, adopted the Impeachment Complaint prepared by outsiders.
“Now,
in the Clinton trial, there was Kenneth Starr who gave the U.S. House of
Representatives truckloads of evidence against President Clinton. Here was
Kenneth Starr who was given special powers, subpoena powers, in fact,
investigative powers, beyond even what other courts could exercise. Because of
those powers, he built up what he thought a case against President Clinton.
“The
job of the U.S. House of Representatives was very simple. It was made for them.
The evidence, duly catalogued and indexed, was for the House Judiciary
Committee just to look at it. No sweat. Compare that to our position. We had no
Kenneth Starr. We had no special counsel. We had only the cause-oriented
groups. But once it was adopted by the House, perforce, it had to be
transmitted to the Senate. It was transmitted November 13.
“Now,
on November 15, the Senate adopted its Rules on Impeachment. In other words, at
the time that the Complaint, the Impeachment Complaint was filed, there was no
Senate rule that could guide the complainers. Nothing at all. There was no
Senate rule. It is like telling, ‘The Constitution says that Congress will
promulgate its own Rules on Impeachment.’ The House did and, perforce, we had
to do that because we are flooded with complaints against Justices of the
Supreme Court, against constitutional officers. None of those prospered but we
have to attend to that. But the Senate had never been faced with an impeachment
case, so it hurriedly drafted the Senate Rules on Impeachment on November 15.
“How
can we complain? How can anyone complain, at least? How can the Defense now egg
on the Senate to say, ‘This Complaint is no good’ when at the time that this
was prepared, there was no Senate Rules to guide us? Zero.
“Fair
play dictates that when a complaint is challenged, it is because we do not go
by substandard, by some measure. There was no standard to follow. There was no
measure to be adopted. We submitted it here.
“Now,
November 15. The Impeachment Rule says that the Rules of Court will be
suppletory and the Rules of Evidence will be liberally supplied. What did the
President’s Counsel do? What they did was, instead of asking for a Bill of
Particulars which they could if they thought it vague, was to file a Motion to
Quash.
“The
President’s Counsel mentioned here Bill of Particulars. He is so right. Why?
The Bill of Particulars provide a defendant or rather a plaintiff the remedy
when the charges are vague. It reads, Section 1, ‘Before responding to a
pleading, a party may move for a definite statement or for a Bill of
Particulars of any matter which is not averred with sufficient definiteness or
particular clarity to enable him properly to prepare his responsive pleading.’
There was a remedy-the Defense did not take advantage of it. What they wanted
was to file a Motion to Quash.
“In
fact, the arguments raised by the President’s Counsel today had already been
discussed in the Motion to Quash. And in that Motion to Quash, the Senate,
acting as Court of Impeachment, denied the Motion to Quash. That settles the
whole thing. The same reasons about the allegations in the Complaint--the
incompleteness, the inadequacy. That was raised here.
“The
Defense Counsel was given 30 minutes to discuss. He used nine minutes, I
remember it. Now, how can he complain now about the inadequacy of the Complaint
when this has been a settled matter?
“But
the point here, Your Honors please, and this is where we go to the core of the
question. The difficulty we have, the Prosecution, is that we have a President
who never uses his name. He has a dozen bank accounts but never does he use his
name.
“In
the opening argument, I said that the President violated every word of his oath
except his name. Little did I realize that he violated even his name because
he’s ashamed of it. He doesn’t want to use it and I will proceed to explain
why.
“We
distributed, if Your Honors please, a….
“If
Your Honors please, you will notice here, if you look at this, what are we
after? We want to open the second envelope which contains Savings Account No.
01606250-51-5. Now, this account, you’ve heard Clarissa Ocampo talk about the
P500 million trust account, that is on the left-hand side. EA trust account,
P500 million.
“Now,
in one of the letters which Clarissa Ocampo testified on was a letter of
February 4, 2000, which had been marked as Exhibit ‘XXX’ on December 22. It
reads:
‘Dear
Mrs. Bagsit:
This
is to authorize you to debit my savings account, Checking Account No.
01606250-51-5 maintained with your branch in the amount of P500 million and
credit my Trust Account No. 19178056-1 representing my initial contribution.
Very
truly yours,
(Sgd.)
JOSE VELARDE’
“If
Your Honors please, the P500 million was taken from the savings account and
transferred to the trust account. That is why we want it opened because we want
to show how the President amassed P3.3 billion within a span of one-and-a-half
years. That’s the kind of money that he placed in that savings account. And
that is the savings account that the President’s lawyers are saying we
shouldn’t open.
“But
that’s not the end. If you will notice this chart, there is another account,
Checking Account No. 00110-25495-4 of P142 million, that is the controversial
check. This amount of P142 million was also taken from the savings account. If
the members of the Court would prefer the Powerpoint at your back, you can just
turn your chair and see that the flow is there, but the others may want to see
this.
“Now,
P142 million was taken from the savings account. That is why we want to open
this the savings account. We want to open the mystery of this
savings account. This P142 million is what the Prosecution claims a check that
was issued by Jose Velarde but actually signed by the President giving P142
million to Sel Yulo.
“Now,
Sel Yulo, in turn, turned over the amount to St. Peter’s Holding, and after the
St. Peter’s Holding, it went on to the purchase of Boracay from the Madrigals.
“Now,
Mr. Chief Justice, we have examined the savings account. Five hundred million
was debited on February 4 from the savings account and credited to the trust
account of P500 million. Also, two entries appear in the savings account which
total P142 million debited from the savings account and transferred to the
checking account, also two entries total P142 million. In other words, the P142
million was taken from the savings account.
“Now,
if Your Honors please, the problem is that you have three accounts all in the
name of Jose Velarde. The Defense, in fact, says even if they are all the
President’s, they are not material. That’s the argument. They are not part of
the complaint.
“But
that is not the end of the story, Mr. Chief Justice, members of the Court. If
you see the savings account, we have pending before the Court various requests
for subpoena, you see, from the savings account. That savings account is fed by
various checks, most of them are paid to cash. Imagine, what was deposited here
totaled about P2.16 billion. If you notice the P3.3 billion here, it’s because
some other investments went into this. That’s why when the President’s lawyer
says that: ‘No. Cash is not investment’…and many went there, in this P3.3-billion
account.
“Now,
who are they? Mark Jimenez placed amounts there. That’s why we want to know. We
want to open the account. Because if we open the account, then we can trace it
to Mark Jimenez.
“Dante
Tan, P300 million placed in that account. Kevin Garcia–we don’t know him, but a
total of P180 million was placed there. Jaime Dichaves, who claims this
account, but puts money inside here. How? He claims this is his account but yet
he puts money in there, P210 million. Lucio Co and others.
“Now,
if Your Honors please, this is no joking matter. Where in the world can you see
a President of the Philippines not having any account in his name? And we are
told not to open it. These accounts–savings accounts had been closed on
November 17, 2000, while on November 15, 2000, when the Senate adopted its
Senate Rules, the account was closed. Where did it go? It went again to six
accounts, not again in the name of the President. But that’s going very far. If
we cannot even open these, how can we go further?
“But
is it the gravity of this account? Mr. Chief Justice, members of the Court:
“On
December 22, 2000, in a bench conference, we were asked by the Chief Justice
whether we could support the ill-gotten character of the P500 million in trust
account. Why? Because the trust account was opened February 4, 2000.
“So,
question…. And we understand it. How can you say that that is ill-gotten except
‘Yes, you opened the account, but is it ill-gotten?’
“So
the Chief Justice tells us: ‘Do you have evidence?’ And we said: ‘Yes.’ And the
understanding was…Counsel Daza said: ‘Tell us who.’ Then I answered: ‘No,
because for security reasons.’
“So
the Chief Justice says, ‘Can you sub rosa inform the Senate President?’ I said,
‘Yes.’ So on New Year’s day, I paid a call on the Senate President and showed
him exactly the savings account and mentioned to him the names which, in a
previous hearing, the Senate President confirmed and conveyed it to the Chief
Justice.
“We
are engaged in trivialities in an issue of such a damning importance. Sirs,
Madams, we don’t have a ‘Kenneth Starr’… Sariling
sikap (By ourselves).
“The
Prosecution is labeled as weak. That is what the talk shows say. But through
hard work, no Kenneth Stars, no subpoena powers, we were able to dig these up.
But this is not the end of the story. There are other accounts under, again,
different names. But if we cannot even open this savings account, how can we
open the other names?
“The
President’s Counsel tells us: ‘They give only the account numbers.’ Naturally,
because the President gives fictitious names. The President has prostituted and
bastardized the banking system. It is almost a roll call of banks, and he has
accounts all over but not in his name. That is why we are asking for subpoena.
If this is granted, we will. But because of the time constraints, we will try
to zero in on the savings account to end this once and for all, to demonstrate
that we cannot have this President because he does not even respect our banking
laws.
“Jose
Velarde, Jose Velarde, Jose Velarde. Why does he not put Joseph Ejercito
Estrada? Is he ashamed of his name?
“Not
only that. Mention was made about the mistresses. We want to demonstrate that
starting–that is why we ask for statements starting 1998. Why? Because it will
be shown that the balances after June 30, 1998, shot up. Imagine, Laarni’s
PSBank, Murphy Branch, from a P3-million balance, it shot up to P63, then to
P249. That is millions. Then P100 million.
“You
see, Mr. Chief Justice, we have a certification here from the Ombudsman which
says that: ‘This is to certify that on the basis of the records of the Office
of the Ombudsman no document of divestment has been filed by His Excellency,
President Joseph Ejercito Estrada, with the Office of the Ombudsman. This
certification is issued upon the request of the Hon. Joker P. Arroyo,
Representative-Prosecutor in the Impeachment Trial of President Joseph Ejercito
Estrada.’
“Now,
what does the Constitution say? The Defense says that we are circumscribed by
the Constitution. But look at this. Republic Act 7080, an Act defining and
penalizing the crime of plunder, ill-gotten wealth, acquired by him, the public
official, directly or indirectly through dummies, nominees, agents or
subordinates. Who are these mistresses? They fall squarely under the
definition.
“Republic
Act 1379, Exceptions: ‘Property unlawfully acquired by the respondent, but its
ownership is concealed by its being recorded in the name of or held by the
respondent’s spouse, ascendants, descendants, relatives or any other person.’
That is why the opening of the mistresses’ accounts are important.
“Republic
Act 3019, the third law, Section 8. Prima Facie Evidence of a Dismissal Due to
Unexplained Wealth. ‘If in accordance with the provisions of Republic Act No.
1379, a public official has been found to have acquired during his incumbency
whether in his name or in the name of other persons, et cetera…’ That violates
the Anti-Graft law.
“Now,
what does the Constitution say? The Constitution says that Section 6, Article
VII, ‘The President shall not receive during his tenure any other emolument
from the Government or any other source.’
“How
did he get the P3.3 billion there in the savings account?
“No.
2. Obligation to Divest – The President shall not, during said term, directly
or indirectly practice any profession, practice in any business or be
financially interested, et cetera. They shall avoid conflict of interest in the
conduct of their Office.
“What
we would like to point out is that, while the Defense banks on the
Constitution, challenges the jurisdiction of this Court, we would say that as
we have read…Forget paragraph 1 in the Articles of Impeachment. That will be
treated separately. We will have evidence for that.
“Now,
paragraph 2, he also violated the Anti-Graft Law he is sworn to uphold.
“Now,
Mr. Chief Justice, the Defense counsel made allusions that we are throwing the
Revised Penal Code at the President. No, Sir. We are charging him only with one
law, a few pages. Not this book. All three interrelated laws on Graft and
Corruption.
3)
He filed his…When you break this up, Mr. Chief Justice, for those–again–I would
ask–those who are non-lawyers here, if you break up the charges we have, then
it is easy to understand how we are proving our case.
“No.
3. He filed his Statement of Assets and Liabilities for the year 1999, stating
therein that he and his wife and children have business interests in only three
corporations. That is what he said in his Statement of Assets and Liabilities.
He said he had only P35 million in Net Worth, then P6.5 million in the banks
and yet he has P3.3 billion here.
“4)
The President, by that sworn statement, also committed perjury in the offense
of unexplained wealth, because records show that he and his wife and mistresses
and their children have other interests in other companies outside of the three
firms listed in his Statement of Assets and Liabilities.
“Now,
Mr. Chief Justice, the Defense makes capital of words in parentheses as if
that’s the heart and soul of the entire complaint. That is just illustrative;
it’s just to explain. Nothing more. Parenthesized words are not part, but they
make capital of it and say that is the meat of the entire complaint.
“Please,
we beg you to think that if what we are now trying to show fits the bill….”
Senator-judges
lined up, including seldom-heard Ramon Revilla, to ask Arroyo questions.
John
Osmeña: “Mr. Chief Justice. I would like to inquire as a
nonlawyer–and I appreciate the lecture–why is it that the honorable Prosecutor
Congressman Joker Arroyo, since he knows so much about the savings account,
Account No. 016062501-5…
Arroyo: “That is the savings
account.”
J.
Osmeña: “That is the savings account. That’s basically what is in Envelope
No. 2.”
Arroyo: “Yes. That is what we are
trying to…”
J.
Osmeña: “You presume. We all presume. Since you know so much about
it, you know that the balance is P3.3 billion, you know that Dante Tan
deposited P300 million, that Jaime Dichaves deposited P210 million, that Lucio
Co deposited–I did not catch the amount–that Mark Jimenez deposited P180
million, since you know so much about it, why don’t you just bring out all your
information and why do you want us to open the envelope? You already know
everything about it anyway.”
Arroyo: “Because it would be
inadmissible. What would be admissible would be that account that we have
requested to be subpoenaed. That is the difference.
“If I give you a piece of paper, you
can always object. No, no, that’s not admissible. But if I give, for instance,
a bank record, testified on by a competent bank official, then that would be
admitted. Because if I would give a statement, then, sasabihing (you’ll say), ‘Gawa-gawa
mo lang yan (You just made it up).’
That is the difference.
J.
Osmeña: “Somewhere, somehow, obviously not in your dreams, at hindi
mo siguro gawa-gawa, somebody must have told you all about these. And so, why
don’t you bring your witnesses here, and your evidence here, and bring these
out in the open, and that would be as visible? I am not a lawyer. But I guess,
we have had so much, so many witnesses here that almost everything is
admissible in this Court, anyway.”
Arroyo: “Sir, we ask that,
precisely, we ask that the official records of savings account, ending 5,
that’s the savings account…we issued a request for subpoena duces tecum which
the Court approved. But then the external lawyers of Equitable Bank wrote the
Chief Justice a letter saying that ‘It’s already in the second envelope; so,
why don’t you just open it?’ In short, instead of presenting the documents we
requested for, the bank says, through their lawyers, that ‘it’s already with
the Secretary, so you just open it.’ That is why we have asked that it be
opened. But then the Defense opposes it. That is why we are here to discuss
this.”
J.
Osmeña: “Well, you know, we have had lessons on evidence and I am
sure that if you really know that there is P3.3 billion and if you really know
all these bloody details–somebody must have told you–there must be evidence
somewhere that you have, and all of these things that you are now telling us
should be brought in here, you could also bring the people who are saying
that.”
Arroyo: “But just to answer, Mr.
Chief Justice, the bank records would be the best evidence. That is all.”
Davide next recognized Enrile.
Enrile: “Mr. Counsel, as a brilliant
lawyer, you are quite familiar between the distinction of amending a pleading
and a motion for a bill of particulars?”
Arroyo: “I don’t claim brilliance,
but I understand the difference.”
Enrile: “May a Bill of Particulars
correct a matter that ought to be the subject of an amendment pleading?”
Arroyo: “I did not advocate a Bill
of Particulars. I only said there is a remedy.”
Enrile: “But now, I am asking you
point-blank, as an experienced lawyer, because that is the meat of my question.
I’ll come back to the Articles of Impeachment because I think this is the heart
of the question.”
Arroyo: “And which is? Can you
restate again, Your Honor, the question?”
Enrile: “That you want to correct by
a Bill of Particulars a matter that ought to be the subject of an amendment to
the pleadings that the House submitted to this Court for trial.”
Arroyo: “The difference between the
Bill of Particulars, it is… the motion is made by the other party, the
amendment is made by the other party, to make it a point.”
Enrile: “Your Honor…”
Arroyo: “Wait, wait. Just a
complainant may be ordered to amend the complaint.”
Enrile: “No, Your Honor. Read Rule
X. If you do not know it, I’ll read it to you, in relation to Rule XII.”
Arroyo: “Oh, is there a question
already?”
Enrile: “I’m asking you, Your Honor.
Now if you do not want to answer that question, Your Honor…”
Arroyo: “No, no, no. The question
is, could we have amended it? That seemed to be the thrust of the question.”
Enrile: “Yes.”
Arroyo: “Could we have amended it?”
Enrile: “Yeah.”
Arroyo: “No, Sir.”
Enrile: “Why not?”
Arroyo: “Because we have adopted it
and the House has empowered us to prosecute the case on the basis of that
Impeachment Complaint.”
Enrile: “Precisely, because the
Constitution, which is the authority for this Senate to hear this case,
requires that the complaint or resolution must be verified by the members of
the House on the basis of knowledge of facts alleged in the Articles of Impeachment,
and, therefore, any facts not alleged in the Articles of Impeachment would not
be within the competence of this Senate to try.”
Arroyo: “Sir, I thought we finished
that already, that we disposed of that in the Motion to Quash. If the idea is
that we are going to rehash this, then I will repeat, I will restate the
position of the House of Prosecutors and which is that, as of November 13, when
we sent the Impeachment Complaint here, which the House adopted as Articles of
Impeachment, the Senate had nothing to guide us.”
Enrile: “The trouble, Mr. Counsel,
as far as, from the viewpoint of this judge’s concern, you are asking this
Senate to amend the Articles of Impeachment in order to insert a material
allegation that was not inserted in this Articles of Impeachment so that you
can introduce the evidence that you now want to introduce.”
Arroyo: “Sir, we need not amend it
because we think that it is adequate, imperfect as it is. We don’t say that
this is a classic, it’s an example, a model for a pleading. But it can stand by
itself.”
Tito Guingona took his turn. “The
testimony, Mr. Witness, which was conditionally admitted, was for the
Prosecution to comply with the conditions. Is that correct?”
Arroyo: “Yes, Sir.”
Guingona: “And you can comply with
that condition if you are able to show the source of the P500 million which was
given as an investment to Wellex Corporation?”
Arroyo: “That is correct. That is in
the transcript of December 22nd.”
Guingona: “And, as a matter of fact,
there was already evidence that the authority to get the source of P500 million
was from that savings account?”
Arroyo: “The Court asked us to
complete, to establish the link.”
Guingona: “And if we do not open the
envelope and if you are not allowed to comply with the subpoenas, then, in
effect, you will be reined in and be able to, in effect, not comply with the
condition imposed by the Court.”
Arroyo: “I could not have said it
better, Sir.”
Guingona: “Yes. Now, as far as
materiality is concerned, can you please cite Rule II there in the diagram
which says: ‘In effect…’ Can you please read?”
Arroyo: “He also violated the
Anti-Graft Law he is sworn to uphold.”
Guingona: “That is in the Articles
of Impeachment.”
Arroyo: “That’s correct.”
Guingona: “Very clear.”
Arroyo: “Very clear.”
Guingona: “And therefore, you are
going to present the Statement of Assets and Liabilities mentioned?”
Arroyo: “In fact, we have it here.”
Guingona: “All right. And then—”
Arroyo: “And already marked, pre-marked.”
Guingona: “Then that allows you to
compare it with the savings account that he has for 1999.”
Arroyo: “We can do that, although
insofar as the trust account is concerned, we cannot. But the savings account,
we can, because the balance in the savings account as of December 31, 1999 show
the balance of about P500 million over.”
Guingona: “Okay. Last point. If you
say that the Annex ‘C’ is illustrative merely, the Defense, on the other hand,
says that it is what is supposed to be limited and restrictive, but, in effect,
would they not be saying that the President participated in business and,
therefore, impliedly violated the Constitution?”
Arroyo: “That was what I was going
to explain, if I had more time because he is forbidden under the Constitution
from having any other income.”
Guingona: “And therefore, even if we
admit Annex ‘C’, then it would show a violation of the Constitution.”
Arroyo: “For instance--let me answer
the question--oh, well, it’s not there anymore, but in the trust account—”
Arroyo: “Could I—I couldn’t answer
the last question of—”
Davide: “Were you not able to answer
it?”
Arroyo: “Can I answer it, just for
the record?”
Davide: “You can answer.”
Arroyo: “Thank you, Your Honor.”
“The trust account testified on by
Clarissa Ocampo is not a trust account. It is really, in fact, an agency. The
President invested P500 million, a loan, and then managed by the bank, but
loaned it to Wellex. So we ask the question: Why is the President engaging in
business, P500 million loan to Wellex and for which he earned income? That’s my
answer to the question of—That’s my answer to Senator Guingona.”
Davide next recognized Loren
Legarda.
Legarda: “Earlier, the Defense
Counsel cited the issue of jurisdiction. Would it be correct to say, or would
it be your position that this question of jurisdiction has now become moot
because this has previously been denied? The Motion to Quash has been denied by
the Senate. Is it correct to say that? Could you kindly clarify that?”
Arroyo: “Yes, Ma’am. That was
raised—that issue was raised, and we read the transcripts. In fact, there was
some assertion of jurisdiction during the first hearing. And during, I think,
the next hearing. Then there was a question, ‘Are you not going up?’ And the
Defense said, ‘No.’
“Now–So to the question of whether
that’s been settled, yes, that’s been settled because that has been denied by
the Court.
Legarda: “That is so, is now moot?”
Arroyo: “Yes, Ma’am.”
Legarda: “It’s also been cited
earlier that in the Articles of Impeachment, Annex ‘C,’ I believe, there were
only several corporations or business interests mentioned. And even, I think,
in page 9 only Vermont Park was mentioned, and nothing was mentioned of Boracay
or let me say, St. Peter’s Holdings. But is it not correct to say that although
St. Peter’s Holdings was not particularly mentioned in page 9 or in Annex ‘C,’
but the issue here really is not St. Peter’s Holdings, but the manner of
acquisition of Boracay mansion by the President, his wife, or possibly
mistresses and his family or his children, and that is the issue? And that is
clearly within the purview of the Articles of Impeachment. Is that not
correct?”
Arroyo: “Yes, that is the position
of the Prosecution.”
Legarda was followed by Frank
Drilon.
Drilon: “Congressman Arroyo, a
question of jurisdiction has been raised based on the alleged noncoverage of
this particular issue in the Articles of Impeachment. Is that not correct?”
Arroyo: “That seems to be the case,
yes, Sir.”
Drilon: “The same ground was called
an issue of materiality before?”
Arroyo: “That’s how I understand
it.”
Drilon: “Now, it’s called ‘question
of jurisdiction’.”
Arroyo: “Yes, they changed the
nomenclature.”
Drilon: “Now, isn’t it a fact that
this particular document that you are seeking to open is covered by a subpoena
duces tecum ad testificandum?”
Arroyo: “That’s correct, Sir.”
Drilon: “And specifically, the
statement of account for Savings Account No. 016062501-5 for October 1-31, 1999
is covered by a subpoena issued on January 10 of the year 2001 by the Chief
Justice.”
Arroyo: “Yes, Sir.”
Drilon: “Now, on the question of
materiality, do you recall the ruling of this Honorable Court insofar as the
timeliness of raising the issue of materiality is concerned?”
Arroyo: “Yes, the Court said that
you can when you present the evidence, when you make the offer.”
Drilon: “In other words, questions
of materiality at this point, according to the Court in the Extended Order of
18 December 2000, is premature.”
Arroyo: “That’s correct. That’s how
I understand the ruling of the Chair.”
Drilon: “Yes. And the objections on
materiality can be obtained when these documents are formally offered in
evidence?”
Arroyo: “I remember that.”
Drilon: “So that at this point, you
are not yet formally offering this in evidence?”
Arroyo: “No. We are just presenting
it and we will offer it at a later time. In fact, the objections I am really
surprised, it’s a good thing, Sir, that you mentioned that. We are just asking;
we are just requesting for a subpoena duces tecum.
“Ordinarily, we barristers, we go
ask for a subpoena duces tecum, the subpoena. Well, the Clerk of Court usually
just issues that and there’s not too much hassle over that thing. Why? Because
when the trial takes place and we start to present the evidence, that’s when
the objection arises. But the objection arises on the materiality of the
testimony of the witness.
But here, we’ve not even reached
that stage. We’re only asking that the document be produced. But there seems to
be a paranoia now on the part of the Defense whenever it comes to the bank
accounts of the President. Even before we have started, they say, ‘No.’ How
would they know if it is material or not? It may be material for the purposes
for which it is offered, but if we make a mistake in the presentation, it may
be material but not material for the purpose for which we are presenting it. I
mean, whether those distinctions can be raised.”
Drilon: “And certainly, that can be
raised at the appropriate time after the documents are seen?”
Arroyo: “Of course.”
Drilon: “At this point in time, we
do not even know whether these documents are material or not because we’ve not
yet seen it?
Arroyo: “We’ve not seen it, except….
The Court has not seen it. But I think the Defense, the Prosecution has seen
it, that’s why we were trying to—Everybody knows this document.”
Drilon: “Except the Court.”
Arroyo: “Except the Court. They have
seen this. They have copies. If they’ve seen this, why will they object
extraneously to this if they’ve not seen it?
“Now, we have seen it. If we’ve seen
it, I’m sure they’ve seen that ahead of us.”
Raul Roco was next. He asked: “Kung susundan po natin ang teoriya ng
Defense, pagkasampa ng habla ng Articles of Impeachment, ‘yan ay magiging
lisensiya na magnakaw, magtago, kumolekta ng pera. Hindi ho ba?” (If we
take the Defense’s theory, the filing of a complaint would become a license for
one to steal, hide and amass wealth. Is it not so?)
Arroyo: “I am not very good in
Filipino, we’re both Bicolanos. But—”
Roco: “Tama iyon, hindi ba? Because
hindi (not) covered sa (by the)
allegations. Ninakaw noon, ngayon,
pagkahabla, siyempre hindi iyong gagawin naman (Let’s say one committed a
crime of theft then, now, after having been sued for theft, he may commit
another crime) afterwards, hindi pa (something
the suit has not) covered. So, it
will no longer be processed to cleanse. The impeachment process will now be a
cloak to protect all future violations of the Constitution or violations of
law. Tama po ba iyon? (Is this
correct?)”
Arroyo: “Tama po iyan. (It is correct.) Because if you don’t open this, then
you have a continuing violation—”
Roco: “That’s correct. Now ...”
Arroyo: “—by the President, no
less.”
Roco: “Can you please explain how an
ordinary Senate Committee—Banks, Blue Ribbon, any other ordinary Senate
Committee—pag ipinatawag namin, kahit ano
iyan, makukuha namin. Pero heto, (once we summon them, we get them. But
here, in this) Impeachment Court, pinaka-ekstraor-dinaryong
(a very extra-ordinary) assignment ng
Senado, kami lang ang puwedeng
maglitis (of the Senate, we we have the sole power to try), we are the only ones who can try–I can
see the Bicolano in you–we are the only ones who can try, aba, we are prohibited. Can you please explain what is the logic
there?
Arroyo: “Sa katotohanan lang, hirap na hirap kami dito. Hirap (Truth be
told, we are finding this very, very difficult. It’s hard)—just to get one.
They have filed an omnibus opposition to every bank account that we have
subpoenaed. All the allegations now, sinasabi
nila (they say), ‘That bank accounts are not part of it, they are not
assets.’ All of us here, the senators and us, congressmen, we file Statement of
Assets and Liabilities. If you see the column ‘Assets,’ it reads here: ‘(a)
Real Properties; (b) Personal and Other Properties.’ Listed in (b), Cash on
Hand and in Banks. So, those are assets.
Now, separate ang negosyo (business is something else). It is under
Letter B.
Roco: “Yes.”
Arroyo: “Business Interests and
Financial Connections. That is where we are saying that the three corporations
are the only ones listed. In the Statement of Assets and Liabilities, tatlo po lang ang inilagay nila. Tatlo lang
ang inilagay nila (they put there only three). In fact, the wording, I mean, we should not underestimate the
ones who framed this impeachment article. They practically copied the wording
of the Statement of Assets and Liabilities. Ganoon
po iyong ano, kaya hindi naman talagang… Marurunong din iyong mga gumawa. (That’s
how it is, it’s not really that … Those who wrote the complaint actually knew
what they were doing.)”
Roco: “But the theory turns the law
on its head. Binabaliktad lahat. (Everything
is turned upside down or reversed.)”
Arroyo: “Yes.”
Roco: “Is there a law that prohibits
use of fictitious names to hide the crime?”
Arroyo: “Of course. There is a
Commonwealth Act, I don’t remem-ber, but it does. Commonwealth Act 142, I was
told by my colleagues here, and the Revised Penal Code, Civil Code. So, here is
a President who never uses his name when it involves money. How’s that?”
Roco: “And that law prohibited to
hide crime is now being used to protect crime, kung hindi natin puwedeng buksan ang envelope. Tama ba iyon? (if we
cannot open that envelope. Is it correct?)”
Arroyo: “Very well said, Sir.”
Roco: “Ang galing talaga nitong Bikolanong ito. (This man from Bicol is
really good.) Then finally, other
interests daw (they say), ordinary
English, iba, di ba? Iyong iba pa. (right? Then the rest.) Aba’y other interests daw (they say) restricted to three? Eh, tama ba iyon? (Is is correct?)
Arroyo: “I think, even without being
a lawyer, let’s say, an English teacher would be able to say that. When you say
in only three corporations, that he has other interests in only three
corporations, that means there is a violation when he mentioned only three. Yet
the Defense contradicts itself by saying that there are 66 other corporations
where the President claims …”
The court went into a break. Trial
resumed after 25 minutes. It was now Cayetano’s turn to take the floor.
Cayetano: “Sa pagkakaintindi ko, (In my understanding) Congressman Arroyo, iyong (the), testimony ni (of) Clarissa Ocampo was conditionally admitted, hindi ho ba (right)?”
Arroyo: “Tama po iyan.” (That’s correct.)
Cayetano: “Conditionally,
conditioned rather that you should be able to prove, meaning ang (the) Prosecution, na iyong (that) P500 million ay galing sa (comes from) ill-gotten
wealth, tama ho ba iyon (is that
right)?”
Arroyo: “Tama po iyon.” (That’s correct.)
Cayetano: “So kaya ninyo gustong buksan itong (the reason you want to open this)
second envelope ay para ninyo i-prove na
iyon ngang (is for you to prove that this) P500 million ay (is) ill-gotten wealth, tama ho ba ito (right)?”
Arroyo: “Tama po.” (Right.)
Cayetano: “Sapagkat kung hindi kayo pagbibigyan ng (Because if you are denied
by the) Senate Tribunal ay hindi ninyo
matutupad ang inyong obligasyon (you will not be able to meet your
obligation) as required by the Presiding Officer to prove the link of the P500
million to be ill-gotten wealth, tama ho
ba ito (right)?
Arroyo: “Tama po.” (Right.)
Cayetano: “So kaya ninyo gustong buksan itong pangalawang (for that reason you
want the court to open this second) envelope?
Arroyo: “Yes, Sir.”
Cayetano: “Ang sabi ninyo ay ang (You said that the) Defense at saka (and
the) Prosecution ay alam na ang detalye
sa loob nitong (already know the content of the) second envelope, totoo ho ba iyon (is it true)?”
Arroyo: “Totoo (True), except the Court.”
Cayetano: “Kaya nga para yata kaming kaawa-awa dito?” (Which is why we look
like worthless here?)
Arroyo: “Tingin ko po nga pag-aawayan…. We are asking you to open something
which we both know.” (That’s how I see it, quarreling over something…)
Cayetano: “E, tama ho ba iyon lalo na sa ating bayan?” (Is it fair especially
for our country?)
Arroyo: “Nasasainyo po iyon (It would be up to you), if you want to share
the contents of the P3.3 billion.”
Cayetano: “Hindi po. Ang importante ay iyong sinabi kong (No. What’s
important is what I said about the) legal obligation on your part to discharge
your duty to link the P500 million dito
sa (to this) ill-gotten wealth sapagkat
iyon ang obligasyon ninyo kaya naging (because that was your obligation and
the reason why) conditionally admitted ang
testimony ni Clarissa Ocampo. Tama ho ba? (Is this correct?”
Arroyo: “Tama po iyon. Pangako namin iyon, ng Prosecution.” (That’s
correct. We—the Prosecution—had that commitment.”
Cayetano: “And if you are not able
to prove, matatanggal iyong testimony ni
Clarissa Ocampo, hindi ho ba (Clarissa Ocampo’s testimony will be stricken
off the records, am I right)?
Arroyo: “That’s correct.”
Cayetano: “Ang inyo bang (Do you share the) theory also na iyong
(that) Annex ‘C’, iyong mga korporasyon,
(the mention of corporations) is purely illustrative lang (only) in character and not exclusive?
Arroyo: “Mabuti nabanggit mo po iyan. Kung tanggalin mo iyong Annex ‘C,’ wala
silang, (It’s good you brought that up. If we do away with Annex ‘C,’ they
have nothing) they cannot complain. In fact, if you remove Annex ‘C,’ they’ll
have no argument at all.”
Cayetano: “Kaya nga ang sinasabi… (That’s why they say….)”
Arroyo: “The reason kung papaano nakasabit iyong (how it got
its way here) Annex ‘C’ na iyan (this
one) which has caused us so much problem is simply, that is an illustration,
illustrative, for example, parang ganoon (like
that), Annex ‘C’. But if you look at the Complaint and remove the Annex ‘C’,
this thing is a perfect complaint.”
Cayetano: “Ngayon, alam po ba ninyo na ang (Now, do you know that the) rules
on verification ay binago na ng (have
been modified by) Supreme Court?”
Arroyo: “Our verification is in
accordance with the rules of the House on verification in impeachment
complaint. Exactly.”
Cayetano: “Yes, pero (but). Exactly. At hindi
ho lang ganoon pero iyong (And not only that but the) rules on verification
ng mga (of) pleadings ay binago na rin ng Supreme Court, alam
ninyo ho ba iyon (have also been revised by the Supreme Court, do you know
that)?
Arroyo: “Yes, we are aware of that,
Sir.”
Flavier tried to make the
discussions light by saying “Mr. Chief Justice, I am now ready to look at the
documents inside Envelope No. 2. Thank you.”
Davide: “That may be done later
after a resolution shall have been made, if at all it will be made. The
honorable Sen. Sergio Osmeña III.”
Serge Osmeña: “Mr. Counsel, anong ibig sabihin ng (what do we mean
by) ‘verification’?”
Arroyo: “‘Verification’ is simply
that the one who verifies, attests to the truth of the contents.”
S. Osmeña: “That the complaint is
true?”
Arroyo: “Tama po iyon.” (That is
correct.)
S. Osmeña: “Okay. And iyong (that) Complaint ho, iyan ba iyong (is that the)
statement of essential facts?
Arroyo: “Correct, in plain
language.”
S. Osmeña: “Ngayon, sa (Now, in a) criminal case, pag hindi po nakasali ho doon sa (if it is not included in the)
statement of facts, hindi po puwedeng
gamitin sa (that cannot be used in the) trial?
Arroyo: “Oo, kasi anong…. (Yes, because what…) What’s going to be proved?”
S. Osmeña: “Okay. So in other words,
if I accuse somebody of stealing money at
sinabi ko, ‘Ayun, may (and I
said, ‘Look, there is) P10 million diyan
sa bangko na iyan, may (in that bank, there is) P10 million rin diyan, may (there also, and) P10
million rin diyan,’ okay lang iyan.
Pagkatapos, (there,’ that would be ok. Then) in the course of the trial, nadiskubre ko may (I discovered there
is) P1 billion ho rito (here). Hindi magagamit iyong (I cannot use
this) P1 billion?
Arroyo: “Nadiskubre (Discovered)?”
S. Osmeña: “Oo (Yes), during the
course of the trial, tapos na (done).
Arroyo: “In the course of the….”
S. Osmeña: “Oo.”
Arroyo: “Mukhang hindi.” (Seems you cannot.)
S. Osmeña: “Hindi (No)?”
Arroyo: “Oo.” (Yes.)
S. Osmeña: “Hindi (No). Okey. So ano po….
(it’s….)”
Arroyo: “Pero puwede niyang sabihing (but he can say) newly discovered
evidence.”
S. Osmeña: “But in a criminal case,
you can always file a new case right away, di
ba (can’t you)?”
Arroyo: “That’s correct.”
S. Osmeña: “All right, but in an
impeachment trial, you have to wait for one year?”
Arroyo: “You have to wait for one
year, and what we don’t know because there’s no jurisprudence on that is that
all those that may not have been charged but existing at the time may not be
charged again. That, I don’t know. But the thing is that the Constitution is
very clear, and which is, that one year after the filing of the Complaint, the
Impeachment Complaint, no complaint can be made again on the same person, on
the same….”
S. Osmeña: “On the same person and
on the same matter.”
Arroyo: “Yes, Your Honor.”
S. Osmeña: “Okay. So in the next
impeachment, puwera na iyong (you may
do away with) Annex ‘C.’ Nandiyan na
ngayon eh. (For now, it’s there.)”
Arroyo: “Tama.” (Correct.)
S. Osmeña: “Okay. Bakit po sinasabi ng (Why is it, says
the) attorney for the Defense na hindi
daw kasama iyong (that the complaint does not include) cash? Cash was not
alleged to have been part of the unexplained wealth.”
Arroyo: “In fact, I’ve been wondering
why the Defense insists that cash is not…. Your Honor, you mentioned that cash
is not included in….”
S. Osmeña: “Earlier, the Defense
Counsel said that hindi ho kasama iyong
(there’s no mention of) cash sa (in
the) Complaint. Wala sa (There is
none in the) statement of facts. What was alleged in the statement of facts are
the real estate property or the equity holdings in those corporations.”
Arroyo: “Well, interests include
cash. How do you define ‘cash’? That is interest.”
S. Osmeña: “That is what I am asking
you.”
Arroyo: “Yes, Sir. As a matter of
fact, that cash, when they deposited it in the bank and it earns interest, what
is that?
S. Osmeña: “All right. At hindi ba iyong (And is it not that)
money is fungible? So what can be real estate today can become BW shares
tomorrow, can be converted into loans receivable the day after, et cetera. So hindi dapat i-limit sa (it should not be
limited to) type of asset but the totality of the assets. Tama ho ba iyan (Is it correct)?”
Arroyo: “That’s correct.”
S. Osmeña: “All right. Now, bakit nag-o-object iyong (why is there
objection from the) Defense kung itong (if
this) account diyan sa (at) Equitable
ay (is an) account ni (of) Dichaves? Hindi ba klineym ni Dichaves iyan? (Didn’t Dichaves claim it?)”
Arroyo: “Iyan nga ang nakakataka, eh. (That’s what mystifies.) Now that you
said it, can I speak in English because I’ll….”
S. Osmeña: “Okay.”
Arroyo: “This account is very
strange. When this checking account was opened, the checking account…. Just for
a little while so it will be shown. When we talk about the checking account,
when the checking account was opened, here comes Dichaves and says, ‘You cannot
because that is mine.’ All right. So he says that is his. Along the way comes
Clarissa Ocampo and testifies on the trust account. But after claiming that
that is his—in fact, he filed a motion or I think a letter claiming that this
checking account is his—may (there’s)
Motion to Quash pa (even) on this,
meaning, that his rights as the owner of the account is being violated. In
short, he claims it. Now comes the trust account.
S. Osmeña: “Iyong (That) P500 million?”
Arroyo: “Iyong (This) P500 million. All right. Clarissa said that that is
the President’s because she saw the President sign it. Then—and this is
important. It is a good thing that was mentioned—then comes the cover-up of
December 13. Here comes Dichaves now claiming—
“—the December trust account,
claiming now that cover-up on December 13. Here comes Dichaves saying that that
is his, the trust account, not this one. [Counsel referring to the
transparency]. He claimed, Dichaves claimed that this is his in a letter to the
Senate President, to the Impeachment Court. But December 13th, as testified by
Clarissa, he tried to claim this by substituting the documents making it appear
that there is an assignment that that is his.
“So here you have the situation
where here is Dichaves claiming this, here is Dichaves claiming that. But when
it was foiled by Clarissa because the President himself–meaning President
Estrada–did not give an authority to assign it, it went poof. So the trust
account remains that of the President. So how can you now trust this Dichaves
who did not pursue his claim on the trust account because the President no less
did not give any document supporting him and then now he is claiming this? This
is the mystery of all these accounts. Jose Velarde being claimed by someone
else, but that’s the President’s.
S. Osmeña: “All right, last
question. Clarification. Sinabi po ng
(It was mentioned by the) Defense counsel na
(that) no predicate was laid because the contents of Envelope No. 1 were not
marked as evidence, even conditional evidence. Why did the Prosecution not ask
that to be marked?”
Arroyo: “You see, at the time that
that was opened, we were not sure about the authenticity of the documents. If
you will recall, Private Prosecutor Romy Capulong made a manifestation that he
felt that the specimen signature cards were tampered with. At this point… at
the time, we were not prepared to accept it yet. But at the moment, tampered or
not, we don’t care anymore owning it. Because, well, it’s there, that’s the
only thing we can find anyway. If that was tampered, there’s nothing more that
we can do.
On his turn, Senator-judge Robert
Jaworski asked why the charges were not as detailed as he thought they should
be.
Senator-judge Tessie Aquino-Oreta
asked if the Bank Secrecy Law might have been violated by bank employees who
supplied the Prosecution the bank records contained in the envelope. Arroyo
explained that there was no violation if the information was given in
connection with the trial of an impeachment case.
Senator-judge Nikki Coseteng
expressed the alarm that the way the Prosecution has collected bank records may
have triggered capital flight out of the country.
Senator-judge Ramon Revilla, probably
to support the contention by the Defense that evidence could not be introduced
unless it was meant to prove the alleged crimes, used the analogy of a
suspected illegal drugs user who bucked litigation because the search warrant
issued by the court was for illegal possession of firearms.
Senator-judge Jun Magsaysay asked if
the bank account being debated on contained 3.3 billion pesos. When Arroyo told
him that it indeed contained that amount— “at its highest point,” Arroyo
said—he could not help but be awed by how good a businessman the account owner
was.
“In 1998,” Magsaysay said, “PLDT
profited only P1 billion with 7,000 employees…. So, I’d like to meet Mr. Jose
Velarde. He must be a good businessman.”
After Magsaysay, Davide recognized
Pong Biazon. He asked the court to turn its eye from Annex ‘C’ to Annex ‘A’:
Biazon: “The Defense is saying, in
reference to Annex “C,” that this is not listed in Annex “C” and, therefore,
should not be touched.”
Arroyo: “That is the position of the
Defense.”
Biazon: “All right. May I point the
attention of the Court to Annex ‘A,’ which should be valued in the same level
as the Defense is putting value in Annex ‘C,’ specifically, page 2, paragraph
5. And may I read.
“‘On or about the first week of
August of 1999, President Estrada instructed me’–this is an affidavit of Mr.
Singson– ‘to transfer the accumulated deposits in my account to Yolanda
Ricaforte. I complied with his instructions and turned over the accumulated
deposits amounting to P130 million to Mrs. Ricaforte, who in turn deposited the
same to various accounts in Equitable Bank.’
“Now, Mr. Prosecutor, is this
deposit part of that savings account?”
Arroyo: “Well, frankly, Your Honor,
this is in Article 2-B.”
Biazon: “Yes.”
Arroyo: “While the Tobacco Excise
Fund is Article 2-A.”
Biazon: “Yes.”
Arroyo: “That’s not my department so
I did not bother anymore to interconnect this because it’s very cluttered. But
one thing is that they are somehow interrelated. The problem is that we have to
see the date of deposit; who deposited it; and it’s a process in itself. We’ll
see the deposit, who made it, then the account number. Then from there, we
trace backwards and it’s rather a difficult process. So, in that respect, we
did not try anymore to connect it and then make a…. That’s the problem of those
who are prosecuting Article 2-A.”
Biazon: “But there is a rule that we
can consider evidence for one article for the other?”
Arroyo: “Yes. I think, that has been
agreed, yes.”
Senator-Judge
Miriam Defensor Santiago: “Mr. Counsel, I invite you to address two points. The
first point is the point of the precedent that we are establishing for all
future impeachment cases. As you know, our system of law operates on the power
of precedent. Our Constitution in the Bill of Rights–that should be Article
III, Section 14, paragraph 2–gives to the accused in a criminal case the right
to be informed of the nature and the cause of the accusation against him. It is
because of this constitutional dictate that our Rules of Court provides rules
for admissibility and relevance. That is Rule 128, Section 4.
“My
concern is this: In a strictly judicial proceeding, the plaintiff is required
to allege all the ultimate facts of his case. And collateral facts under the
Rules of Court are not allowed except when it falls under the exception. In
effect, I understand the Defense panel to be requesting from the Senate, as an
Impeachment Court, a liberal interpretation of the rules on admissibility and
relevance. Maybe that is not such a problem. The problem is that we have to
look to the future. And my concern is that we might be going on a slippery
slope. In other words, it might be bad precedent.
The
second–since my time is very limited–is the point of unfair prejudice. The law
on unfair prejudice is, a great deal of evidence is excluded on the ground that
costs outweigh the benefits. The judge’s power to exclude relevant evidence, if
it’s of probative value, is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair
prejudice. Prejudice can arise from facts that arouse the judges’ hostility or
sympathy from one side without regard to the probative value of the evidence.
This
is the reason why normal judges are allowed, for example, to exclude pictures
of the victim in a murder case because it might be too gruesome and work unfair
prejudice. So, two points, please.
Davide:
“Thank you.”
Arroyo:
“Now, as to — I remember only the second point about unfair prejudice. Could
the…”
Santiago:
“Two points. The first point is, won’t this set a dangerous precedent?”
Arroyo:
“Ah, yes, I get it. Now, will it set a dangerous precedent? The remedy is with
the Senate. This is policy. The Senate can draft rules. But for so long as the
Senate will give us… We are given this to follow; therefore, we operate within
this. Now if the Senate, since, anyway, constitutionally now and the months to
come will be burdened with this, then all they have to do is to amend the
Rules. But as I have stated earlier, these Rules came late. We had already
transmitted our Articles of Impeachment before this was even adopted by the
Senate. So, what we are saying is, how could we be guided by these Rules of the
Senate when they were nonexistent at the time that this was filed, when we
framed the Articles of Impeachment? Now if we had this, then perhaps we would
have been guided. But we don’t.
Now,
the second point about unfair prejudice. I would agree that we would be the
last to allow unfair prejudice. But the thing is this: This goes to the very
heart of due process and due process is to be informed of the charges. We have
been talking about this. This was the subject of the Motion to Quash. This has
been subject in every argument. So, is there really--is the President caught by
surprise here? Is he caught in the sense that, is he caught by surprise? No.
Now,
the other one is, we have an impartial tribunal–another element of due process,
unless the senators doubt themselves that they cannot render impartial justice.
But we have faith that they can render impartial justice.
So,
this is what I can say.
Davide:
“Thank you, Your Honor. The last would be the–rather, second to the last–the
honorable Majority Leader, Senator-Judge Tatad.
Tatad:
“Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice.
“Congressman
Arroyo, may I assure you that I have read the Rules of the Senate on
Impeachment. There is nothing in these rules that require the House of
Representatives to submit a sloppily constructed complaint.
“Now
Rule VI provides that the rules of evidence and procedures shall be liberally construed,
and you have quoted this. Do you understand this to mean that the charges are
also to be liberally construed?”
Arroyo:
“To the first question I take offense, Mr. Senator, with the words used--that
must the Senate accept a sloppily prepared Articles of Impeachment. Sir, in the
Motion to Quash, I said … We are guided by our own rules. And if it’s good
enough for the House, the Senate cannot tell us what to do about it. If it
passed the House, then take it for what it is. Your function is to proceed on
the basis of this.”
Tatad:
“If I’d be given a chance, I withdraw the offense.”
Arroyo:
“Otherwise, you put the House in a subordinate position, and we stressed that
in our opposition to the Motion to Quash--that as far as the House is
concerned, it is supreme in its own sphere in the preparation, because as the
Defense said, we have the sole power to initiate. And when we initiate, then we
submit it to the Senate. But the Senate must take it.
Tatad:
“We have.”
Arroyo:
“Now, what’s the second question? I forgot.”
Tatad:
“Do you understand Rule VI to mean that the charges are also to be liberally
construed?”
Arroyo:
“Well, that is what the Senate Rules say.”
Tatad:
“No. Evidence and procedure, yes. Charges, that’s the question.”
Arroyo:
“Look at your Rules. The Rules of Court, I’ve not even seen it but I’ve
memorized it, is suppletory. You know when the word used is ‘suppletory?’ It is
just a substitute. It is not the principal one. Now, the Rules of Evidence was…
Tatad:
“Rule VI, last part. Rules of Court shall apply whenever applicable.”
Arroyo:
“All right. Saan iyon? Ah, ito. All right. ‘The Rules of Court
shall apply insofar as they are applicable. Rules of Evidence and Procedure
shall be liberally construed.’
“We
are talking of evidence here. Therefore, it should be liberally construed. We
are talking of evidence here. Admissibility, materiality, that is evidence.”
Tatad:
“Yes. But are the charges to remain frozen and firm, or are they to be a work
in progress which must grow from time to time?”
Arroyo:
“I beg to disagree. This is not work in progress. We are not in waiting while
we are here. Well, I cannot argue on a legal point with a non-lawyer.”
Tatad:
“Well, regrettably, we are simply in the field of logic.”
Arroyo:
“That’s the refuge of the uninitiated.”
Tatad:
“Well, I move to strike out those remarks, Mr. Chief Justice.
Arroyo:
“I agree.”
Davide:
“What was the motion?”
Tatad:
“To strike out the unparliamentary expression--”
Davide:
“Which portion, Your Honor?” (not clear, overlapping of voices)
Tatad:
“Mr. Prosecutor, can you quote to us, for the record, Article XI, Section 2 of
the Constitution?”
Arroyo:
“The President, the Vice-President, the Members of the Supreme Court, the
Members of the Constitutional Commissions, and the Ombudsman may be removed
from office, on impeachment for, and conviction of, culpable violation of the
Constitution, treason, bribery, graft and corruption, other high crimes, or
betrayal of public trust. All other public officers and employees may be
removed from office as provided by law, but not by impeachment.”
Tatad:
“Can the Prosecutor focus on the phrase ‘on impeachment for and conviction of’
and tell us what he understands by this phrase?”
Arroyo:
“How’s that again?”
Tatad:
“It will be on my time if I repeat it, Mr. Chief Justice. May I be allowed to
repeat without my time running?”
Arroyo:
“You are arguing with me on the Constitution. Go ahead.”
Tatad:
“No, I’m asking a question.”
Arroyo:
“Which is?”
Davide:
“There’s a pending question.”
Tatad:
“I’m asking Prosecutor to try to educate us on his understanding of that phrase
‘The President may be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction
of’ and follows the offenses. The focus is on the phrase ‘on impeachment for,
and conviction of.’ What is your understanding of this given the fact that the
House shall have exclusive power to impeach; on the Senate, the sole power to
try and decide impeachment cases?
Arroyo:
“Is Your Honor trying to say that there should be a conviction first?”
Tatad:
“No. ‘Impeachment for.’”
Arroyo:
“No, because you use the two words. ‘Impeachment for and conviction of.’”
Tatad:
“Yes, that is the Constitution.”
Arroyo:
“If you remove the phrase ‘conviction of’ then there’s a meeting of the minds.”
Tatad:
“What I am trying to say, Mr. Prosecutor, is that the Senate tries the
President only on the offenses for which he has been impeached.”
Arroyo:
“Yes, Sir.”
Tatad:
“And those that appear in the Articles of Impeachment.”
Arroyo:
“The President has been impeached by the House under the Articles of
Impeachment.”
Tatad:
“Precisely.”
Arroyo:
“And look at what the Articles of Impeachment, may I read to you, here ‘That
respondent committed bribery--”
Tatad:
“Yes.”
Arroyo:
“That respondent committed graft and corrupt practices; that respondent
betrayed the public trust; that the respondent culpably violated the
Constitution. That meets the requirements of Section 2, Article XI of the
Constitution.”
Tatad:
“And what about the ultimate facts?”
Arroyo:
“The ultimate facts are stated in the allegations. I just mentioned the
headings.”
Tatad:
“The ultimate facts are as stated in the Articles–”
Arroyo:
“That’s correct.”
Tatad:
“… not as stated in the press.”
Arroyo:
“Oh, that’s an insinuation. I again take offense on that. But never mind.”
Tatad:
“No offense was intended.”
Arroyo:
“Let it stay on the record because that reflects on the judge.
“Pres.
Joseph Estrada violated the Constitution and stands guilty of graft and
corruption when he directly requested or received for his personal benefit P130
million out of the P230 million released by Secretary Benjamin Diokno of the
Department of Budget and Management allocated under Republic Act 7172 in
violation of Section 3-C of Republic Act 3019, as may be seen from the
affidavit of Luis C. Singson, provincial governor of Ilocos Sur, dated
September 25, 2000. Is that incomplete?
“Second,
Pres. Joseph Estrada violated the Constitution and stands guilty of graft and
corruption when he participated directly in the real estate business through a family-controlled
corporation which constructed 36 townhouses in Vermont Park, Executive Village,
Antipolo City as shown in the PCIJ article on President Estrada’s family and
financial interests.
“We
are going to prove this independently of number 2, 3, and 4. In fact, this is
the easiest to prove.
“Now,
the President also violated the anti-graft law he is sworn to uphold. Now, as I
stated earlier, we are not throwing the book, the Revised Penal Code, on the
President. We are saying that he violated the anti-graft law, the law on
statements of assets and liabilities, the unexplained wealth. In fact, three
interrelated laws, not all.
“The
problem with the Defense and, perhaps, for its reasons his Honor is misled, is
that what the Defense has--”
Tatad:
“I move to strike out.”
Arroyo:
“All right. What the President has been saying, or rather the President’s
lawyers, they have taken the whole thing in its entirety and then tried to put
it together and say, ‘You cannot do that’. So we have compartmentalized it,
each one. So you can see that with these allegations we prove each one, and
which we can do.
Tatad:
“Mr. Prosecutor, have you heard of the name Charles Black, Jr.?”
Arroyo:
“No.”
Tatad:
“Renowned American constitutionalist in Yale. He wrote the most authoritative
handbook on impeachment. May I invite your attention to the book because I am
unable to make my points on this respect. Thank you very much.
Arroyo:
“I would like to commend the Senator.”
Davide:
“The Senate President is recognized.”
Arroyo:
“Just a comment, Mr. Chief Justice. I commend the Senator for his search for
understanding of the Constitution, which is beyond us, who briefed….”
Tatad:
“The Senate President is now recognized.”
Pimentel:
“Mr. Prosecutor, may I remind you that you were my lawyer in the martial law
years and that caused me to go to jail as a result of your impassioned pleas.”
Arroyo:
“Under the conditions then at that time.”
Pimentel:
“Yes, of course. May I ask, Your Honor, of your enumeration of the people who
were allegedly, according to you, feeding Savings Account No. 1016062501-5? I
would think that you were trying to be selective in your enumeration of the
people there.”
Arroyo:
“Well, I was running through it. Perhaps I missed some names.”
Pimentel:
“Yes.”
Arroyo:
“Could be. I could have missed some names because I was not reading anymore
from my notes.”
Pimentel:
“Would you care to fully tell us who are these other people feeding into
Savings Account that I have just mentioned?”
Arroyo:
“That’s the one that is subject to a subpoena, Mr. President. We have issued a
request for subpoena duces tecum.”
Pimentel:
“And this savings account is the same—are you saying that this is a combo
account with the checking account?”
Arroyo:
“That’s correct, Sir. In other words, Mr. President, that these two accounts are
a combo account. There’s an automatic transfer. In other words, if the funds in
the savings account and the current account runs low, then the savings account—there’ll
be an automatic transfer from the savings account to the checking account.
“But
may I add, Mr. President, that the wonder of it all is that in this case, this
had only one transaction, the P142 million. No other transaction. This one, the
checking account. It doesn’t earn interest. In other words, after the P142
million was transferred from the Savings Account to the Checking Account, there
was no more movement in this account.
Pimentel:
“And these documents are contained in Envelope No. 2. Is that what you are
saying, Your Honor?”
Arroyo:
“Yes, Sir, because that is what the lawyers said, ACCRA.”
Pimentel:
“And then, Envelope No. 2 is already in the possession of the Senate. Is that
correct?”
Arroyo:
“That’s correct. That is what … I think that the Secretary reported it to the
Court and also, the lawyers said so. But why should we both produce them yet
when it’s already with the Senate?
Pimentel:
“Exactly. So, this is something that is already in the possession of the
Senate, and if we were not to open it, don’t you think this will cause
institutional damage to the Senate itself as an Impeachment Court?
Arroyo:
“I prefer not to comment on that. I have offended already some senators here. I
don’t want to.
Pimentel:
“All right. Would the name William Gatchalian ring a bell, to be reminded of
the people who are feeding Savings Account in question?”
Arroyo:
“Sir, good. Antonio Evangelista, one of the contractors in one of the mansions.
Ramon Lee. Kevin Garcia is the most mysterious because he is not a known
person. But he deposited a total of P180 million in that account, and all in
cashier’s checks. Many of these are all in cashier’s checks.
“Why
should it be in cashier’s checks?”
Pimentel:
“Are you asking me?”
Arroyo:
“May I read, Mr. Chief Justice, and Mr. President, the concluding paragraph of
the letter of Abello, Concepcion, Regala and Cruz, dated 12 January 2001:
“In
view of the foregoing, all the documents sought to be produced through the
January subpoena are already in the possession, custody and control of the
Honorable Court. We respectfully submit that the production and disclosure to
or use by the Prosecution of the said documents are subject to this Honorable
Courts final disposition of the objections in respect of their confidentiality
and relevance.”
Pimentel:
“So these documents were produced not because of a subpoena?”
Arroyo:
“No, Sir.”
Pimentel:
“They were submitted voluntarily to the custody of the Impeachment Court, is
that what you are saying?”
Arroyo:
“What happened, Mr. President. is this. When we were looking for the Checking
Account, we had this subpoenaed duces tecum. So it was produced and sent
here. Then it was followed by another envelope which contains this Savings
Account. That is how it went to the Senate as an Impeachment Court. But our
request was strictly only on the Checking Account.
Davide:
“No more questions, Your Honor?”
Pimentel:
“None, thank you.”
Davide:
“The Defense will be given ten minutes for rebuttal. Atty. Mendoza.”
Mendoza:
“May I please, Your Honors.
“The
Prosecutor has implicitly conceded the point of the Defense that the cash
assets, as well as the so-called Boracay assets, are not covered by the
Articles of Impeachment. Rather, what the Prosecutor has tried to do, on the
basis of information, presumptively obtained illegally in violation of Republic
Act 1405, showed on this screen for public viewing in order to induce the
Senate, perhaps with public pressure, that by those, the Senate, the President
may be accused of the most grievous offense and, consequently, must be deemed
covered by the Articles of Impeachment and convicted by the Senate.
Senator-Judge
Tatad called attention to the phrase ‘on impeachment for and conviction of’.
“I
would volunteer my interpretation when it says, ‘on impeachment for and
conviction of.’ What is emphasized is that the Respondent cannot be convicted
of anything other than what he has been impeached for by the House of
Representatives. What the Prosecutor has attempted to do, try to do is, if I
may illustrate, is somewhat an illustration I have given before.
“Kung
ang isang tao po ay nademanda ng murder, sabihin na natin, dahil pinatay niya
si Pedro, noong litisin ito ay nakita nilang mahina pala ang ebidensiya. Hindi
nila maaaring ma-convict sa pagkakapatay ni Pedro, kaya naghanap pa sila ng
ebidensiya. Nakita nila, pinatay pala si Juan, pinatay pala si Juana, pinatay
pala si Petra. (If a person is brought to court for murder, let’s say,
because he killed Pedro, but when the case was tried, they saw that evidence
was weak. They could not convict him for the killing of Pedro, so they fished
for more evidence. Then they saw that a certain Juan was also killed, and then
Juana was also killed, Petra was also killed.)
“’Naku,’
sabi nila, ‘napakalaking kasalanan ng taong iyan. Masamang tao iyan, kailangan
i-convict na natin iyan. Gamitin na natin itong ebidensiyang iba na pinatay
niya itong mga tao. Ikondena na natin sa pagkakapatay kay Pedro, maski itong
pagkakapatay nitong iba na hindi kasali diyan.’ Pero hindi po iyan
pinahihintulutan, eh. (Then
they exclaim ‘how big the crimes he committed was. He is wicked, we must make
sure he is convicted. We can use this other evidence showing he killed more
people. We convict him for killing Pedro, including those who are not part of
the case.’ But this is just not allowed.)
“Mayroon
pong kasabihan, hindi ko po maisalin sa Tagalog, pero sa wikang English ay ito,
ang sinasabi (There’s a saying which I cannot translate to Tagalog, but in
English it goes like this): ‘The end never justifies the means.’ Ganiyan
po ang argumento ng (That’s the argument of the) Prosecution.
“Tingnan
ninyo, sinasabi nila sa madla, ‘Napakalaking pagkakasala, napakala-king halaga
iyan.’ (Look, they tell the public ‘What a grave offense, how huge the
amount of money that is involved.’)
“Hindi
ko po sinasabing kay Presidente iyan. Sinasabi ko lang, ganiyan ang sinasabi
nila, napakalaking halaga niyan. ‘Hindi ba kayo nayayanig diyan, mga Senador,
mga Huwes? Maski hindi kasali iyan, hindi pa ba ninyo isasali iyan? Nandidiyan
na iyong dokumento sa Senado bakit hindi pa natin buksan?’ (I am not saying
the money belongs to the President. What I am saying is that’s what they are
saying--the amount is big. ‘Senators and Judges, are you not bothered by it?
Even if it is not part of the charge, will you not include it? The document is
already in the Senate, why not open it?’)
“Totoo
nga po iyan. Dumating dito iyan, wala naman pong subpoena iyan, eh. Hindi naman
kasali sa subpoena iyan, eh. (That’s true. It reached the Senate even
without subpoena. It is not included in the subpoena.) In other words, even
that second envelope should not have been here in the Senate. Ganiyan po ang
nangyayari, eh. (That’s how it happened.) And this is what we have been
complaining about and raising—the point we have been raising even from
inception of these proceedings.
“Iyan
pong tseke diyan sa Boracay, doon pa sa (On the check about Boracay, during
the) opening statement po ni (by) Congressman Arroyo, lumabas
na iyan, eh. Papaano pong nakuha iyan, wala namang subpoena? (That was
illegally procured evidence. And when evidence is illegally procured, this
ceases to be admissible. In fact, it is our submission, if ever the Senate
should rule, that the subpoena should be issued by this…. At this point in
time, that evidence proceeding from that second account can no longer be used
because it has been illegally procured.
“Sino
po ba ang nagsabi? Wala naman pong maaaring magsabi pa sa (Who shared the information? No one can
possibly tell the) Prosecution kung anong nandidiyan sa (what’s inside
the) second account na iyan kundi rin empleyado ng bangko. Samakatuwid,
nalaman nila ang impormasyon na iyan sapagkat ang batas nalabag, nilabag ng mga
empleyado sa bangko ang batas. Kung nilabag ng empleyado ng bangko ang batas at
sa pamamagitan noon nagkaroon ng base ang (except bank employees
themselves. In other words, they got the information by illegal means, the bank
employees broke the law. If bank employees broke the law and because of that
this becomes the basis of the) Prosecution, then the evidence, which is the
fruit, the result of the fruit, the fruit of that poison tree, cannot be used
as evidence anymore. Ganiyan po ang nangyayari. (And that is what is
happening now.)
“The
end, if your Honor please, can never justify the means.
“The
means for impeachment have been clearly stated in the Constitution. You must
impeach.
The
House of Representatives said, ‘Totoo nga po, sinasabi nila, hindi daw sila
si (‘True, they say, they are not) Kenneth Starr. Hindi daw sila ang
nag-imbestiga kay Presidente (they were not the ones who investigated
President) Nixon.’
“Ang
katotohanan, iyon pong lahat ng imbestigasyon doon kay Presidente Nixon at
kay Presidente Clinton (The truth is, all those investigations regarding
President Nixon and President Clinton), nangyari iyon sa (were conducted
at the) House of Representatives, and that is what the House of
Representatives should have done. All of these impeachment processes, all of
these discovery procedures should have been done in the House of
Representatives. Pero hindi po ginawa iyan, eh. Ang ginawa nila, (But
this was not done. What they did) verify na lang. Sabi, ‘Totoo po iyon, eh.’
Sabi ng mga (They say ‘That’s true.’ Say the) congressmen,
‘Ipadala na iyan sa Senado.’ (‘Send it now to the Senate.’)
“Ngayon
po, maliwanag, hindi maaaring pinatotohanan ng (It’s now clear the) House
of Representatives na (cannot confirm) nag-verify ng impeachment
na iyan, Articles na iyan sapagkat sinasabi ni (because as mentioned
by) Congressman Arroyo iyang impormasyon na iyan nalaman lamang nila noong
Disyembre. Kung nalaman lamang nila noong Disyembre iyan, ano naman ang porma
ng beripikasyon na kinakailangan? Hindi po maaaring vinerify iyan ng mga
miyembro ng (this information came to their knowledge in December. And if
they knew it in December, what kind of verification was needed? Verification
cannot be done by members of the) House of Representatives sapagkat iyon
pong (because that) Articles of Impeachment, Nobyembre pa po ang petsa
niyan (was dated in November yet.)
“Maliwanag
po na iyan ay hindi pinatotohanan ng sino mang miyembro ng (It’s clear that it was never verified by
any member of the) House of
Representatives na pumirma sa (that signed the) Articles of
Impeachment sapagkat noong panahon na iyon hindi pa po, wala pa pong
empleyado ng bangko na mayroong lakas-loob na gumawa nang di sang-ayon sa batas
at ibigay iyang impormasiyon na iyan (because during that time, no bank
employee could have had the courage to break the law and share this
information).
Xxxx
“Hindi
po (Not the) House, hindi po (not the) Senate Rules ang
ini-invoke namin, eh. Hindi po liberal interpretation ang isyu
dito, eh (is not the issue here). Ang amin pong ini-invoke ito
pong Saligang-Batas (What we invoke here is the Constitution). Madali
lamang pong intindihin ito, eh. Ano po ba ang demanda? Ang Senado po ay hindi
puwedeng tumanggap ng ebidensiya, hindi maaaring mag-isyu ng subpoena kung
hindi natutukoy tungkol doon sa mga nililitis na (This is easy to
understand. What is the charge? The Senate cannot accept evidence, cannot issue
subpoena unless they relate to the trial of) Articles of Impeachment na
nanggaling sa (that originated from the) House of Representatives.
Pimentel:
“One question, Mr. Chief Justice.”
Davide:
“The Senate President.”
Pimentel:
“If you will allow me, Atty. Mendoza. Iyong halimbawa mo na pinatay si
Pedro, hindi puwedeng mag-submit ng ebidensiya na pati si Juan ay pinatay din.
Tama po iyon. Pero hindi ba totoo na iyong pamamaraang paano pinatay si Pedro,
initak ba siya? Tinalian ba siya ng lubid? (That example about Pedro’s
killing, it’s true that evidence on the killing of Juan cannot be accepted. But
is it not true that the manner by which Pedro was killed—was he bolo-hacked?
Was he strangled?) Was there superior force, you know, exerted on him to kill
him? These are valid evidence, I would think.
Mendoza:
“Opo. Pero tungkol lahat sa pagpatay kay Pedro.” (Yes. But all about the
killing of Pedro.)
Pimentel:
“Yes, and this is exactly what is being talked about. It is about the
corruption, alleged corruption of the President.”
Mendoza:
“Eh, iyon pong means, eh, nandidito din po sa (they are also
found here in) Articles of Impeachment. Hindi naman po kami ang gumawa
nitong (We were not the ones who prepared this) Articles of Impeachment. Hindi
rin naman po ang Senado ang gumawa nito, eh. Ang (The Senate did not do
this too. The) House of Representatives po ang gumawa, eh (did this).
Pimentel:
“Thank you.”
Mendoza:
“Salamat po.” (Thank you.)
Davide:
“The Majority Leader.”
Arroyo:
“Mr. Chief Justice.”
Davide:
“Yes. Prosecutor Arroyo.”
Arroyo:
“Could I just have about a few minutes? Could I just have, lest these go in the
Record unchallenged, just three minutes?”
Davide:
“Pardon?”
Arroyo:
“Can you give me three minutes, Mr. Chief Justice? Just a sur-rebuttal. Three
minutes.”
Davide:
“Sur-rebuttal? I guess no more. We ended the oral argument by way of a rebuttal
to the reply. The issues have been properly joined and vigorously discussed.”
Tatad:
“Mr. Chief Justice.”
Davide:
“The Majority Leader.”
Tatad:
“I move that we now put this to a vote by the Court.”
Davide:
“There is a motion to…. the only issue on the opening? On the opening. So,
there is a motion to put that to a vote.”
Guingona:
“Just to clarify, Mr. Chief Justice. There was a previous ruling that this….
the Prosecution is mandated to present evidence in order to link as a condition
to the admission of the first Clarissa Ocampo testimony.”
Davide:
“But there is now….”
Guingona:
“Are we now voting on that condition? Or….”
Davide:
“No, no. The issue is very, very clear. It is just on the issue of the opening
that had been raised. There is a motion to that effect.”
Guingona:
“Well, if it is on the opening…”
Davide:
“Yes. The honorable Senator Legarda-Leviste–”
Guingona:
“If it is….”
Davide:
“–for a while.”
Leviste:
“I am sorry. I do not wish to interrupt Senator-Judge Guingona. I just wish to
clarify a point, Mr. Chief Justice. I would like to inquire whether the Chief
Justice will render a ruling or whether he will leave it to the Impeachment
Court to vote on it right now.”
Davide:
“Actually, under the Rules–”
Drilon:
“Mr. Chief Justice….”
Davide:
“–of the Senate, the Presiding Officer may, but there is a motion now that it
is the Body that will.”
Enrile:
“I second the motion, Mr. Chief Justice.”
Davide:
“Yes. Senator Drilon.”
Drilon:
“Yes. The pleading, Mr. Chief Justice, styled opposition to opening of second
envelope. That is how the pleading is styled. In truth and in fact, we have
discussed for the last several hours the question of relevancy of what is
contained in the second envelope, and therefore, since it is a question of
relevancy, under Rule VI, Your Honor, the Chief Justice can rule initially.
“Of
course, that option is for the Chief Justice. I just want to highlight the fact
that what we are talking of here is a question of materiality, relevancy,
competency of the evidence and incidental questions, and therefore, initially,
it is the Chief Justice who will rule. Of course, I will repeat, that is an
option of the Chief Justice if he wants to pass it on immediately to the Court.
But let me just emphasize, Your Honor, that it is not the opposition, while it
styled opposition to the opening of the second envelope, it is actually a rule
on the relevancy of what is in the second envelope.”
Davide:
“The honorable Senator-Judge Cayetano.”
Cayetano:
“I rise here, Mr. Chief Justice, to support the statement of Senator Drilon.
Our Rule VI is very clear. It says:
“…the
Chief Justice when presiding on the trial may rule on all questions of evidence
including, but not limited to, questions of materiality, relevancy, competency
or admissibility of evidence and incidental questions, which ruling shall stand
as the judgment of the Senate, unless a Member of the Senate shall ask that a
formal vote be taken thereon, in which case it shall be submitted to the Senate
for decision after one contrary view is expressed…
“My
point, Mr. Chief Justice, is it is the Chief Justice first that should rule on
the question of whether the opening of the second envelope is material and
relevant to the matter at hand and, I believe that is the rule, Mr. Chief
Justice.”
Davide:
“The Majority Leader.”
Tatad:
“Just to speak a little more to my motion. Under Rule VI:
“…the
Chief Justice when presiding on the trial may rule on all questions of evidence
including, but not limited to, questions of materiality, relevancy, competency,
admissibility of evidence and incidental questions, which ruling shall stand as
the judgment of the Senate, unless a Member of the Senate shall ask that a
formal vote be taken thereon, in which case it shall be submitted to the Senate
for decision after one contrary view is expressed, et cetera.
“The
Rule is well understood--all questions of materiality, relevancy, competency.
“I
do recall in the course of the arguments that the Defense raised the question
of jurisdiction, that simply admissibility, materiality, et cetera. And I have
been approached by a number of members of the Court suggesting that a vote be
taken on this issue right here on the Floor. That is the reason for the motion.
And since the motion has been moved and seconded, and there is an opposition,
it is in order that we divide the House on this issue.
Roco:
“Point of order.”
Davide:
“What is the point of order of Senator Roco?”
Roco:
“May I ask that the Rule be read completely, and this is a mode of a point of
order. May I just continue where the Majority Leader left off. It says:
“…unless
a Member of the Senate shall ask that a formal vote be taken thereon, in which
case it shall be submitted to the Senate for decision after one contrary view
is expressed; or the Presiding Officer may at his option, in the first
instance, submit any such question to a vote of the Members of the Senate.
“So
that the option is really with the Chief Justice, but he may, of course, give
it to us. Thank you.”
Davide:
“The Presiding Officer is placed by the Court in a dilemma. You have the second
paragraph of Rule VI of Resolution No. 68 on the Rules of Procedure on
Impeachment Trial. While it may be true that initially, he may be given, he can
exercise that option, you have now a member of the Court itself moving that it
should be voted upon, duly seconded, and an opposition was made. Under the
circumstance then, the Chair will have to submit it to the Body. The Chair
cannot pretend to preempt a motion, unless that motion is withdrawn.
Drilon:
“There are two incidents then, Your Honor. The first incident is, the way I
understand it, we vote as to whether the Chief Justice should initially rule.
Is that the first one?”
Davide:
“No, it is not. The ruling of the Chair is, he cannot exercise the option
precisely because he is in a dilemma now. There is an existing motion, duly
seconded, that that issue should be submitted to a vote.”
Drilon:
“The main issue, Your Honor? We are just inquiring.”
Davide:
“Yes. The main issue. Meaning that there should be a voting now in open court
on the issue that had been raised on whether to open that envelope.”
Roco:
“Inquiry.”
Davide:
“What is the inquiry?”
Roco:
“What is the specific motion? Is this an inter-locutory motion to prevent
opening? Because I just want to know what exactly…
Davide:
“That was the motion of the Majority Leader on that issue.”
Roco:
“No. He just said, ‘to vote.’ But we do not know what exactly what we are
voting. What is the substantive main motion?”
Davide:
“To be voted upon would be the issue of whether to open or not that envelope.”
Roco:
“And that is in the nature of an interlocutory order, I guess, because it is
not a final disposition. Would this be correct, Mr. Chief Justice?”
Davide:
“What shall we do with the present motion?”
Tatad:
“The motion…”
Davide:
“Yes, the Honorable Senator Sergio Osmeña III.”
S.
Osmeña: “Mr. Chief Justice, I believe a motion
should be put in positive form. Not just to vote. Therefore, with the
permission of the Majority Leader, may I move that Envelope No. 2 be opened.”
Davide:
“That is the positive motion. In effect, it is a modification of the motion of
the Majority Leader. What is the position of the Majority Leader?”
Tatad:
“Mr. Chief Justice, the original motion presented is that the Court vote on the
motion presented by the Prosecution that we open the second envelope.”
Roco:
“So, in answer to my inquiry, Mr. Chief Justice, I take it as an interlocutory
question. May I then appeal to Rule XXII.”
Davide:
“Rule?”
Roco:
“Twenty-two, Mr. Chief Justice. That in matters of interlocutory question, we
can speak for ten minutes and for not more than 15 minutes on the final
question.”
Davide:
“On the final question.”
Roco:
“Yes. Since this is an interlocutory order, and then maybe, for those who…. May
we just skip….”
Davide:
“I am…. The Chair feels that Rule XXII will not apply on the matter. It would
refer to orders and decisions.”
Roco:
“Which may be acted upon–”
Davide:
“Yes.”
Roco:
“–without objection, or if objection is heard, the orders and decisions shall
be voted on without debate by yes and nays, which shall be entered in the
record, subject, however, to the operation of Rule VI, and in that case no
member shall speak more than once on one question, and for not more than ten
minutes on an interlocutory question, and for not more than fifteen minutes on
the final question….”
Davide:
“Yes, on an interlocutory question.”
Roco:
“And motion pending to open…”
Davide:
“We can allow, we can apply, and there will be debate subject to the time
limitation under Rule XXII.”
Roco:
“If we may, we would wish to avail. I will not occupy the whole ten minutes.”
Davide:
“You can. But, first, we should hear the proponent of the motion.”
Roco:
“Of course. If the Majority Leader would wish to speak on the….”
Davide:
“The Majority Leader. Meaning, the period of debate on this particular
interlocutory motion, order, would be ten minutes for the proponent and ten
minutes for the oppositor.”
Tatad:
“Mr. Chief Justice, distinguished Members of the Court.
“We
have listened intently to both parties, Prosecution and the Defense, argue the
point at issue. It is of utmost importance to this trial that we take a
decision as a Court as to whether or not we are going to allow matters which
are not specifically included in the Articles of Impeachment to be accepted by
this Court.
“Several
days ago, we allowed the opening of an envelope. The contents have not been
received in evidence, but they have allowed to feed the popular fancy about
what’s is happening in this Court.
“As
a Senator-Judge, without the legal education that the distinguished Prosecutor
has, I come to this Court solely to see if the President of the Philippines
deserves to be convicted or acquitted on the basis of the Articles of
Impeachment as they are written. I do not believe the Senate can go beyond the
Articles of Impeachment.
“The
United States has a richer legal experience on impeachment. But even so, there
are very few experts and authorities on impeachment. But the most widely quoted
authority, Prof. Charles Black of Yale University, in his handbook,
Impeachment, containing 80 pages, a very slim volume–this was prepared during
the Nixon impeachment in the House–says with clarity and vigor that ‘The
Senator’s sole duty is to try the impeached official’--in this case, the
President–’only on the basis of the charges for which he has been impeached by
the House of Representatives.’
“’It
might be emphasized,’ Professor Black says, ‘that the Senator’s role is solely
one of acting on the accusations, the Articles of Impeachment voted by the
House of Representatives. The Senate cannot lawfully find the President guilty
of something not charged by the House any more than a jury can find a defendant
guilty of something not charged in the indictment. This follows from the
elementary principles of fair notice as well as from the linkage implied by the
constitutional phrase on impeachment for and conviction of. It could hardly
make sense to read this as allowing impeachment for one thing and conviction
for another. Of course, any material uncovered in the course of the Senate
trial might be matter for a new impeachment in the House of Representatives.’
“I
think I can say that I have been impressed with a lot of the testimonies we
have heard in this Court. A lot of criminal activity has been referred to in
this Court; a lot of improprieties have been revealed for which I believe the
President must respond to. But these things deserve to be heard in their own
and proper place since they are not covered in the Articles of Impeachment. We
cannot expand the coverage of the Articles of Impeachment.
“In
Article 1, for instance, the President is charged with bribery. What is the
allegation? That he received on a monthly basis P10 million in protection money
from Gov. Luis ‘Chavit’ Singson. Supposing, a witness was to come to us today
and say that on Christmas Day or on New Year’s Eve, the President had accepted
a container van full of money in exchange for presidential approval of a multibillion-peso
contract, can we bring that evidence to prove his guilt under Article 1? As a
non-lawyer, I don’t believe we can. We should charge him in a separate forum,
not here.
“Well,
I have only 10 minutes, Mr. President, and not being a lawyer, I do not have
the right to over speak but I believe I have made my stand.”
Davide:
“The Honorable Senator Roco who made a reservation.”
Roco:
“Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice.”
Davide:
“And after that, the Honorable Senator-Judge Loren Legarda-Leviste; then the
Honorable Senator Guingona.”
Roco:
“I appeal to my friends and colleagues. In fact, maybe if we can dispense with
this as soon as possible, it is better. But it is in the nature of the
impeachment process, Mr. Chief Justice, that passions, that there are passions,
and I can see the passion of the Prosecution, I can see the passion of the
Defense, and sometimes it is precisely because there is passion that we as
lawyers and we as senators must now rise above ourselves.
“What
is at issue, Mr. Chief Justice, of course, is an interlocutory question but
what is being charged is not just President Estrada. We are now putting
ourselves before the bar of history. We are putting ourselves before the bar of
public opinion, and our judgment on this interlocutory order can therefore
affect not just President Estrada, but the Chamber and this Impeachment Court.
“I
rise consequently, Mr. Chief Justice, to appeal to all of us to try to consider
the interests of not only the Chamber as a Senate, not only the Chamber as an
Impeachment Court, but the interest and responsibility that we owe to all those
who sent us here. Unfortunately, there is nobody else being given the
assignment to try. Wala na pong ibang makapaglilitis dito sa isyung ito
kundi tayo. Kaya importante na lahat tayo ay…. ang pinakamataas na kaya natin
sa ating kaisipan ang ihahandog natin sa bayan.
Nakita
ko po na nagkakainitan kanina ang Prosecutor
at ang ibang mga kasama natin. Nakikita kong nagkakainisan pero kung ito lang
po ang dahilan, sa palagay ko’y…. Tayo din, sa Senado nagkakainisan din tayo
pero naitatabi natin iyan upang maibigay natin at maialay natin sa bayan iyong
pinakamahusay. Ano ang nakikita ko po? (The task of hearing this case is
unique to us. It is important that we offer our best to the country. I saw
earlier the heated exchange between the Prosecutor and some of our fellow judges,
but things like this, even among us Senators, if this is a way by which we can
show to our people that we are doing our best… What do I see?)
If
we convict or declare as innocent the Respondent, President Estrada, it must be
on full transparency. Dapat naiilawan lahat. Napakalungkot po kung (We
need to shed light on everything. It is sad if) mag-convict tayo or
mag-declare na hindi guilty ang Presidente at may nalimutan o may
napagtakpan na ebidensiya. Ang (we convict or acquit the President and we
missed something, or we allowed suppression of evidence. That) technical
objection ay wala daw doon sa (is said to be not part of the) Complaint.
Kung tutuusin, nandiyan eh. Ang sabi nga ng (In fact, it is there. As
mentioned by) former Justice Isagani Cruz sa kaniyang isinulat, mahihirapan
lang daw talagang makita na nandiyan sa (in his article, it’s there but the
Defense may find it hard to see it in the) Articles of Impeachment ang
defense at naiintindihan ko rin iyan sapagkat tayong mga abogado,
magkukuwento tayo ng side natin. Ang (and I also understand
it because as lawyers, we present our side. The) Prosecution, ikukuwento ang
side nila (they will present their side); ang Defense, ikukuwento
ang side nila (they will present their side), at tayo naman
natapat na tayo ngayon ang maghahatol. So hinihingi po natin, puwedeng
ang (and we as Senator-Judges happen to be the ones who will decide. So we
ask, it is possible for the) Prosecution or ang Defense mag-aaway
dito pero tayo po, ang hihintayin natin ay ang kabuuan ng ebidensiya (to
quarrel here but for us, our task is to wait for the entire body of evidence to
unfold.)
The
fact that we are on trial should make us pause, Mr. Chief Justice, and I hope
we can achieve some consensus on some points. Kung ano man po ang hatol ng
(Whatever is the verdict of the) Impeachment Court na ito finally, maging
guilty o maging innocent, ang importante ay suportahan ng
mamamayang Pilipino (what is important is it gets the support of the
Filipino people). It is not as important that it is guilty or innocent.
It must be supported by the Filipino people and the Republic of the
Philippines.
“This
evening, we seem to be about to cross a bridge and I hope, Mr. Chief Justice,
that when we cross that, we retain the higher credibility of the Impeachment
Court and the impeachment process. Tayo po ang nautusan (We have been
called to serve) and that is why I do not want to debate on legal
technicalities. The interest of national unity, the interest of the people, ang
kapakanan po ng ating sambayanan ay nakataya at hindi natin puwedeng malimutan
at iyon naman ang tunay na isyu dito sa pinag-uusapan natin kung bubuksan (the
interest of the nation is what’s at stake and we cannot forget that that is the
real issue in this discussion).
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“Kanina
nabanggit ko rin po na bawal ang paggamit ng hindi tunay na pangalan. Nasa (A while ago I mentioned that it is
illegal to use fictitious names. It is in the) Penal Code. At sinumpaan ni
Presidente na ma-implement iyan. (And the President took an oath to
implement that.) May Commonwealth Act at sinumpaan ni Presidente na
bawal iyan, at siya ang mag-i-implement. (There is a Commonwealth Act and
the President took an oath to implement its prohibitions.) Ngayon po iyong
batas na iyon magagamit sa pagtakip. Siguro po hindi tama kung ganyan ang
gagawin natin. (Now these laws can be used to hide something. It does not
seem right if that is what we are going to do.)
“In
summary, because I have less than two minutes, I think if I may appeal to my
colleagues, we are the ones now being judged. It’s the Chamber. As we vote on
this, we shall be judged. And I hope we…. and I have the highest regard. And
whenever I’m asked by media, I keep saying, ‘I have the highest expectations
from my colleagues.’ And I hope that that expectation will be met and approved
and accepted by the Filipino people.”
Davide:
“Thank you. The honorable Senator-Judge Loren Legarda-Leviste.”
Leviste:
“Salamat po, Mr. Chief Justice.”
“Simple
lang po. May I manifest, Mr. Chief Justice, that this matter before us
tonight is the same issue that was before us a few weeks ago, I believe, before
Christmas. And that was the subject of an Extended Order by the Chief Justice,
by the Presiding Officer, dated December 18, 2000. And therefore, I believe
that to be consistent with that ruling then, the appropriate thing to do is to
allow the opening of the second set of documents.
“Mr.
Chief Justice, our job here is to ferret out the truth. The people deserve
nothing less than to know the truth. Payagan po nating, malaman ng taumbayan
ang katotohanan sa pagbukas po ng pangalawang dokumento (Let us allow the
people to know the truth by having the second envelope opened).
Davide:
“Thank you, Your Honor. The Chair will now recognize the Honorable
Senator-Judge Guingona.”
Guingona:
“Gusto ko lang sanang ipahayag na itong pagbukas ng (I just want to say
that opening of this) envelope, not only is in line with the former order of
the Chief Justice, conditionally, pero, ito, within the jurisdiction at
within the materiality at hindi po totoo, sa aking pananaw, na ito ay parang
(and it is not true, in my view, that it is similar to the) murder case na
pinatay si Pedro, at ang lumalabas ay iba iyong pinatay. Kaya iyong si Petra ay
hindi pwedeng masali rito sapagkat ang charge dito na nakalagay ay
(that Pedro was killed and yet what has unraveled is somebody else was killed.
So this Petra cannot be included here because the charge that is stated here
is) he also violated the anti-graft law he is sworn to uphold.
“He
filed his Statement of Assets and Liabilities for the year 1999, stating
therein that he and his wife and children have business interests in only three
corporations. Hindi sinasabi diyan na iyong (There is no mention in it
that) unexplained wealth ay (is) P500
million lamang (only); iyong (that) unexplained wealth ay
(is) P2 billion lamang (only);
iyong (that) unexplained wealth ay (is) P3.3 billion o mas malaki pa, sapagkat iyan ang batas (or
even bigger, because that is the law). And that is very relevant to the
charges we are now hearing.
“Kaya
iyong Pedro, Petra, hindi po
(Hence that Pedro, Petra is not) analogous dito sa nililitis natin na
(to what we are hearing in these) impeachment proceedings. And since this is
only the opening of the envelope at kailangang malaman ng taumbayan kung ano
ang talagang katotohanan, palagay ko, (and the people need to know what
really the truth is, I think) Mr. Chief Justice, we owe it to the nation, we
owe it to the Filipino, we owe it to the millions who are now listening to
grant this simple request. Buksan natin iyong sobre upang malaman kung ano
talaga ang nakalagay diyan. (Let us open the envelope so we know what
really is in it.)
“Why
is the Defense objecting so vigorously? Kung natuloy ba iyong plano na
nabulgar dito na si (If the plan succeeded to make) Mr. Dichaves ang
may-ari ng (as owner of) savings account, magkakaroon ba ng
(will there be) objection kagaya ng (like the) objection na
hinaharap natin ngayon (that we face today)? Palagay ko hindi
magkakaroon ng ganoong (I don’t think there will be) objection.
“Alam
na ng bayan (People
already know) and the people have a right to know, we have a right to know, and
in the name of truth, in the name of the Filipino, in the name of justice, I
ask that this envelope be opened now.
Davide:
“Thank you. The honorable Senator-Judge Biazon. Then after that, the honorable
Senator-Judge S. Osmeña III, Cayetano, Johnny Enrile, Tessie Aquino-Oreta.”
Biazon:
“Noong isang linggo po, nagpunta ako sa (Last week, I went to) San
Manuel, Tarlac, kausap ko po iyong mga magsasaka. Ang tanong sa akin, ‘Iyon
po bang inyong proseso ay maipakikita sa amin kung ano ang katotohanan?’ (got
around to talk to the farmers. They asked me ‘will your process show us what is
the truth?’)
“Dito
po ay may nabanggit na tayong (Here
there is already mention of) P500
million trust account, may nabanggit na tayong (we already
mentioned) P142 million na ginamit
po doon sa isang mansiyon. Ito pong (that was used for a mansion. This) P142 million na ito, itong P500 million ngayon ay lumalabas na
iisa yata ang may-ari sapagkat iyong tatlong (now it appears that there is
only one owner because these 3) accounts na sinasabi puro po (being
mentioned are all) Jose Velarde. Jose Velarde iyong trust
account, Jose Velarde iyong pinuntahan noong (is where the) P142 million (ended up), at ngayon ay
mayroong mga lumalabas na impormasyon, mga kababayan, (and now some
information is coming out, fellow citizens), Chief Justice, mga kapanalig ko
po dito sa Senado, na ito nga pala ay parte ng isang malaking kayamanang
maaaring magkahalaga ng (fellow believers in the Senate, that these amounts
are part of a huge treasure amounting to) P3.3
billion sa pangalan ng (in the name of) Jose Velarde. Papaano po
natin puwedeng paghiwa-hiwalayin iyong tatlong iyon kung iisa lang naman palang
pangalan ang ating nadidinig? (How can we segregate these three if we hear
only one name?) Jose Velarde sa P142
million, Jose Velarde sa P500
million. Merong impormasyon na (There is information that) Jose Velarde
pa rin ang nakakabit dito sa (is yet linked to this) P3.3 billion. Mahaharap ko pa kaya uli iyong mga taong nagtanong
sa aking magsasaka kung hindi po natin bubuksan at pakakawalan iyong
katotohanan na nakakulong diyan sa pangalawang (Will I be able to face the
farmer who asked me questions if we do not open and free the truth that is
trapped inside that second) envelope na iyan?
“I
need to see what is in that envelope. It can help me formulate my decision when
the time for me to render my final decision comes. Pag hindi ko po nakita
kung ano ang nasa loob ng (If I do not see what is inside that) envelope na
iyon, kung ano pa man ang aking magiging hatol, pirmi ko pong iisipin
habang-buhay na ang aking hatol ay kulang. Ang ibig ko pong sabihin, kung ano
man ang aking magiging hatol ay sapagkat nakabase sa katotohanan. Huwag nating
ikulong ang katotohanan na iyan na nakakulong diyan sa envelope na iyan.
Palabasin natin iyan sapagkat ang sabi po ng ating mamamayan: ‘Katotohanan po
lamang ang aming hinihingi.’ (whatever my verdict will be, I will bear in
mind for as long as I live that my judgment was wanting. What I mean is
whatever decision I will make will be based on the truth. Let us not lock the
truth inside that envelope. Let us free it because, say our fellowmen: ‘The
truth is all we ask for.’)
“Again,
by the nature of what constitutes an impeachment proceeding that I have
expounded many times, I invoke Rule VI or Section 6 or Article VI of the Senate
Rules na hindi po maaring ikulong ang katotohanan dahil lamang sa
teknikalidad. Hindi natin maaaring ikulong ang katotohanan dahil po lamang sa
(the truth cannot be suppressed on the sole ground of technicality. We cannot
hide the truth simply because of) legalistic gobbledygook.
Davide:
“Thank you, Your Honor. The honorable Senator-Judge S. Osmeña III.”
S.
Osmeǹa: “Mr.
Chief Justice, you know, tonight the reputation of the Senate as an institution
is at stake. For the past several weeks starting December 7, practically the
whole country has followed the progress of this impeachment trial via
television, or radio or video tapes later on. Everybody knows the evidence that
has been brought out in this trial, whether they were accepted conditionally or
absolutely they still know. But what is important to this institution, Mr.
Chief Justice, is not whether the final verdict of the senators will be to
convict or to acquit the President of the Republic. What is important is that
the process was transparent, and that the verdict is in keeping with the
evidence that has been brought out during this trial. Pag overwhelming po
ang evidence, eh, ano ang magagawa natin–ma-a-acquit ba iyan? Eh,
magagalit ang taong-bayan sa atin. Pag kulang naman ang ebidensiya, (If
evidence is overwhelming, what can we do, do we acquit? The people will surely
slam us. But if the evidence is weak) it would be ridiculous for us to convict
His Excellency, the President.
“Ngayon
po, noong (Now, on) December 20, binuksan po natin iyong (we opened)
Envelope No. 1. Iyong nakasulat ho diyan (What is written there),
‘Jose Velarde,’ Wala namang koneksiyon pa kay Pangulong (There is no
connection yet to President) Erap Estrada. Ngunit mayroong (But there
is) notation diyan na ito po ang (that there is) the other half of a
combo account at nakasulat po doon iyong (and it is written there that)
savings account number ni Jose Velarde. Later on, when Clarissa
Ocampo testified that, indeed, she saw the President of the Republic signed
Jose Velarde to five sets of documents, the agency agreement or Investment
Management Agreement, the authorization to debit his savings account, the very
same numbered savings account that was in the first set of documents that came
out of the first envelope delivered here by Equitable Bank and other documents,
that was when the connection was made.
“Now,
the Senate allowed the opening of the first envelope. The Senate allowed the
testimony of Clarissa Ocampo and people found Clarissa Ocampo to be very, very
credible. After all, she had no reason to lie.
“Ngayon
po, dito sa (Now, in this) account that is being hidden inside Envelope No.
2, the savings account, as asserted earlier by Prosecutor Joker Arroyo, will
show reported deposits of about P3.3
billion over a span of 12 months.
“Malamang
po ay nandiriyan ang deposito na galing sa (It is likely that is where deposits coming from) tobacco
fund na binanggit ni (mentioned by) Gov. Chavit Singson na ibinigay
daw niya kay (are being kept and which he said he gave to) Atong Ang, at
ibinigay ni (and given by) Atong Ang kay (to) Joseph Estrada.
Paano natin malalaman iyon? Malamang nandiriyan din ho ang (How will we
know it? It is likely that is where we will also find the) P200 million na ibinigay ni (given by) Ricaforte kay
(to) Ed Serapio at idiniposito daw ni (which was said to be deposited
by) Ed Serapio sa isang (in one) Equitable Bank account, the same bank.
As a matter of fact, the treasurer of the Erap Muslim Youth Foundation is none
other than the chairman of the Board or then chairman of the Board and majority
owner, George L. Go.
“So,
sa ngayon po (as of now), as a member of this impeachment panel, ako
po ay nagtataka kung bakit natatakot ang (I am surprised why the) Defense
panel na buksan ang (is afraid to open this) envelope na ito.
Sapagkat, una sa lahat, nadinig ko po (Because first of all, I heard),
and I have heard it several times that His Excellency, the President, said, ‘I
have not committed graft and corruption; I have not received a single cent from
any source that is illegal.’ And when Clarissa Ocampo testified, I remember the
President said, ‘Wala akong kinalaman diyan.’ (‘I have nothing to do
with it.’) So, why is the Defense panel so afraid to open this?
“On
the other hand, baka pag binuksan ang (if we get to open this) envelope na
ito ay tapos na ang boksing (it might just end it all). And that is where
we are tonight.
“So,
Mr. Chief Justice, when we took an oath to be members of this impeachment
panel, we took an oath to render impartial justice. As far as I am concerned,
the one on trial here, the President of the Republic, is not really the one on
trial. It is the Senate that is on trial.
“Furthermore,
the Senate has been conducting this impeachment trial to make sure that society
can be saved from anybody who would be declared unfit for public office.
“Simple
question: Can a president or any official deposit P3.3 billion in his account and still be fit for public office?
That is the question tonight. And if we vote not to open Envelope No. 2, and I
know that the contents of Envelope No. 2 will somehow find its way into the
newspapers if not tomorrow then the day after and the whole country will know
what is in Envelope No. 2, then I think the members of this Body will only have
themselves to blame for trying to make sure that the Filipinos lose on a technicality.
Pag may na-technical dito, ang taong-bayan po ang na-technical.
“Therefore,
Mr. Chief Justice, I move that we open the envelope and even accept on
condition, in the same manner that we opened the first envelope, and we allowed
Clarissa Ocampo to testify so that later on we, as members of the Impeachment
Body, may decide whether, indeed, the testimony and the documents were relevant
or not.”
Davide:
“The Honorable Senator-Judge Cayetano; after him, the honorable Senator-Judge
Enrile; and finally, the honorable Senator-Judge Aquino-Oreta, the honorable Senator-Judge
John H. Osmeña, the honorable Senator-Judge Franklin M. Drilon, and the
honorable Senator-Judge Ramon B. Magsaysay, Jr.”
Cayetano:
“Ang paningin po ng ating mga kababayan sa buong bansa ay nasa atin ngayong
gabi simula po nang magdebate dito ang Prosekyusyon at ang Depensa at kasama na
po ang mga pananalita ng mga Senador-Huwes dito sa isyu na kung dapat ba nating
buksan iyang pangalawang envelope na hinihiling ng Prosekyusyon. (The
whole nation has its eyes fixed on us tonight since the start of the debate
among the Prosecution, Defense and Senator-Judges on the issue of whether we
should open the second envelope or not as requested by the Prosecution.)
“Sana
po ay pinagbigyan natin ang ating Mahal na Mahistrado, si (I had hoped that
the) Presiding Officer, the Honorable Chief Justice na siya muna ang
mag-ruling sapagkat iyan naman po ay naaayon sa (was given the opportunity
to first issue a ruling as this is provided under) Rule VI ng ating (of
our) Senate Rules on Impeachment. Sana po ay gusto kong marinig kung ano ang
kaniyang sasabihin, kung papayagan niyang buksan itong (I hoped to hear
what he had to say, if he would allow the opening of this) second envelope o
hindi. Subalit (or not. But this is) moot and academic na po iyan
sapagkat naunahan po tayo ng isang musyon (now because we are now
pre-empted by a motion).
Ano
kaya ang laman nitong
(What could be the content of this) envelope na ito? Bomba? Kung ito man ay
bomba, palagay ko po ay hindi nakakamatay ito ng tao, na kagaya noong mga
bombang sumabog noong (Bombs? If these are bombs, I don’t think they can
kill people, unlike the ones that exploded on) December 30. Kung ito’y
bomba, baka ito po ay bomba ng katotohanan kaya dapat siguro nating buksan at
huwag tayong matakot sapagkat iyang bomba na iyan ang magbibigay sa atin, hindi
lamang ng katotohanan. Sinabi nga po ng Bibliya, (If this is a bomb,
perhaps this is a bomb of truth which we should unwrap and for which we should
not fear because that bomb will give us not only the truth. As quoted in the Bible)
‘The truth shall set us free.’
“Ang
akin pong mga kaibigan sa Depensa, kahit ayaw nilang tanggapin, subalit iyong
kanilang mga argumento ay sinasabing ang proseso rito ay (My friends in the
Defense, even if they refuse to accept it, their arguments would make it appear
like these are) criminal proceedings. Halimbawa po ngayon ay narinig natin
ang aking mahal na propesor, na binanggit iyong tinatawag na prinsipyo na (For
example we just heard it from my beloved professor, talking about the principle
that), ‘The fruit of the poison tree cannot be admitted.’ Iyan po ay
prinsipyo sa (That is a principle of) Criminal Law, iyong tinatawag na
(that so-called) ‘proof beyond reasonable doubt’ na nabanggit din dito
(also mentioned here) days ago. Again, iyan po ay prinsipyo ng (that is
a principle of) Criminal proceeding.
“Pero,
gaya po nang pagkakasabi ko kanina, hindi po ito (However, like I said
earlier, this is not a) criminal proceeding. Ito po ay (This is a)
political process na nakalagay sa ating Saligang Batas para husgahan kung
ang isang Pangulo ay dapat manatili sa kaniyang puwesto. Hindi dapat kulungin o
kaya bigyan ng pena na pera kung hindi tanggalin lamang sa puwesto. Kaya po ito
ay hindi (provided for in the Constitution to determine if a President
should stay in office or not. He should not be jailed or penalized but merely
removed from his position. Therefore, this is not a) criminal proceeding.
“Kaya
naman po nang ginawa namin iyong (That is why when we worked on the) Rules
of Impeachment ay sinunod namin ang (we followed the) Record of the
Constitutional Commission na sa debate nga po ang aming nakita na ang sinabi
ng gumawa ng ating Saligang Batas na ang (that in the pertinent debates we
saw what the framers of the Constitution said, that the) Rules of Procedure and
Rules of Evidence should be liberally construed. Sapagkat iyon pong mga
bayani na naghanda at gumawa ng ating Saligang Batas ay alam po nila na
ito ay hindi (Because those heroes that drafted the Constitution knew that
this is not a) criminal proceeding, kung hindi isang (but rather a)
political process. At iyan na nga po ang naging base ng aming (And this
has become the basis of our) Rules of Proceedings.
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“Bakit
kaya gustong palabasin ng (Why would the) Prosecution at buksan itong (wish
to open the) second envelope? Sapagkat mahalaga po, mahal na magistrado at
mga kababayan, ayaw lang sabihin ng Depensa subalit kung hindi natin
papayagan na mabuksan ang (Because it is important, although the Defense
would not admit it, that if we do not allow the opening of the) second
envelope, ang testigo ni (the testimony of) Clarissa Ocampo ay
itatapon sa basura, kung hindi man, sa kangkungan. Sapagkat ang layunin ng
(will be wasted. The objective of the) Prosecution ay tumupad sa obligasyon
na sinabi ni (is to comply with the directive of the) Chief Justice na
kailangang i-link ninyo, o isabit ninyo, o sabihin ninyo iyong (that
there is need to connect the) P500
million na sinabi ni (mentioned by) Clarissa Ocampo dito ay galing sa
(as having been sourced from) ill-gotten wealth. Kaya nga importante at
mahalaga na ito na nga po ang obligasyon na gustong tuparin ng (So it is important,
and this is in keeping with the obligation that needs to be performed by the)
Prosecution--to link that that P500
million is ill-gotten wealth. At iyan nga pong pagbubukas ng (And that
the opening of the) second envelope ang magpapatunay (will prove it),
according to the Prosecution.
“Ang
sabi po ng mahal kong Propesor, ay dapat daw ang ating gagawin dito, ang maging
batayan ay ang Konstitusyon. Tama po iyan, Propesor. Pero wala naman po sa
Konstitusyon na sinasabing (My
beloved Professor said that what we should do must be based on the
Constitution. But there is none in the Constitution that says) how do we prove
the Articles of Impeachment. Iyan po ay nasa (It is in the) Rules of
Impeachment na ginawa ng Senado (which the Senate promulgated). At
ang (And the) Rules of Court po ay (is) suppletory in character
whenever applicable. Sapagkat ang Saligang-Batas ay hindi naman naglalahad
na (Because the Constitution does not say) ‘Okay, pagkatapos nang
(after the) impeachment ay manggaling sa (will originate from the) House
at naririto na sa Senado ay wala naman po sa Konstitusyon ang sinabing,
“Papaano ninyo (and now it is here in the Senate and nothing in the
Constitution says)…will prove, how will the House Prosecutor now prove
the allegations in the Complaint or the ultimate facts?”’ Wala po sa
Konstitusyon iyan, Propesor. Iyan po ay nasa (It is not in the
Constitution, Professor. That is in the) Rules of Impeachment na aming
ginawa (which we drafted). And the Rules of Court are suppletory in
character.
Xxxx
“Kung
hindi naman bomba ang labas niyan at wala namang sinasabi ang (If it is a
dud and the) Prosecution, eh di, iyan po (has nothing to show for it,
then this) will be held against the Prosecution at magtatagumpay ang
(and this shall be as success for the) Defense. Pero, habang hindi natin
nakikita ang laman ng (However, for as long as we do not see what’s in
that) second envelope na iyan, habang hindi natin nakikita kung ano nga ba
iyan, ano po ang sasabihin natin dito? Gaya po ng sinabi ko, alam na ng Depensa,
alam na ng (for as long as we are unable to determine what it really is,
what shall we say about it? Like I said, the Defense knows, the) Prosecution ang
laman nitong (know the content of this) second envelope. Kami lamang
yata rito ang hindi nakakaalam. Ang mga taong bayan na nakikinig sa atin at
ngayon at nanonood ay hindi nila alam. Tama po ba iyan? Hindi naman ho tama na
ang mga abogado ng (We members of the court seem to be the only ones who do
not know what’s in it. The general public who are watching us right now do not
know as well. Is it correct? It is not correct that counsels for the) Defense
at mga abogado ng (and counsels for the) Prosecution ay alam ang laman
ng (know the contents of the) second envelope, na kaming mga Senador ay
hindi alam (while we Senators do not know)?
“I
submit, Mr. Chief Justice, that the opening of the second envelope is relevant
and material to the testimony of Clarissa Ocampo, that the P500 million was
indeed of the President signing as Jose Velarde. And that it is relevant and
material to prove as an obligation on the part of the Prosecution that such
P500 million is part and parcel of an ill-gotten wealth, which is the ultimate
fact sought to be proven in the second paragraph of Article 2 of the
impeachment complaint.”
Davide:
“Thank you. The Chair will now recognize the honorable Senator-Judge Enrile.”
Enrile:
“Mr. Chief Justice, I’ll be very, very brief. I feel when I am standing in this
Chamber this evening that I am actually facing the bar of history and the bar
of public opinion. There is a certain amount of trepidation in my heart but
nonetheless, I must perform my duty as I must being a member of this Chamber.
“Mr.
President, Mr. Chief Justice, I am not saying at this point that Pres. Joseph
Ejercito Estrada is guilty of the charges against him. Neither am I saying that
he is innocent. Not yet. What I am saying at this point, and this is the only
issue before us, is that I cannot as a judge perform the function of the House
of Representatives which has the sole power, authority and prerogative to
prepare the Articles that will impeach the President. If indeed the President
of the Philippines committed the alleged wrongdoings being imputed to him on
the basis of the facts claimed to have been uncovered by the Prosecution after
the Articles of Impeachment have been elevated to the Senate, then let the
House of Representatives perform its constitutional duty to prepare a new set
of Article or Articles of Impeachment to embody the newly discovered acts of
alleged wrongdoing.
“To
do otherwise, Mr. Chief Justice, and ladies and gentlemen of the Senate, I
humbly submit that this Senate acting as an Impeachment Court has no power
under the Constitution to amend the Articles of Impeachment before us. It
cannot constitutionally and validly perform the task lodged solely by the
Constitution on the House of Representatives. To do that, to do so would be a
total travesty of due process and a transgression of elementary fairness.
“You
know, Mr. Chief Justice, ladies and gentlemen of this Chamber, we talk of
discovering the truth. There are people in this Chamber who do not know the
meaning of truth. One time, and I’ll tell you this, I was charged with a crime
that was not even in our statute book--Rebellion Complexed with Murder. And my
witness to the fact that I was innocent--and even the distinguished member of
the Senate-Senator Cayetano knows about this and some gentlemen in this Chamber
know about this--my witness was no less than a priest who was saying mass in my
house at that very moment when they say that Senator Gringo Honasan, then
Colonel Honasan was in my house with 100 soldiers at that precise moment for
which I was framed and jailed with Rebellion Complexed with Murder in order to
immobilize me. And you know what happened to Father Danilo Dagsaan, the priest?
He was shipped out of this country by no less than Jaime Cardinal Sin, with the
connivance and conspiracy of President Corazon Aquino. And this is the opportune
time, Mr. President, Mr. Chief Justice, for me to put this in the annals and
record of this Republic so that future historians will know the entire truth
about this.”
Pimentel:
“Thank you. Let’s have the next.”
Oreta:
“Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice.
“Well,
as correctly pointed out earlier by the Majority Floor Leader, Senator-Judge
Francisco Tatad, the Articles of Impeachment is not an open-ended charge sheet
which can be expanded from day to day to accommodate discoveries made by the
Prosecution. Well, I agree that the Rules of Evidence should be liberally
construed. I submit that liberal interpretation of the Rules should be
consistent with the twin concepts of fair play and due process.
“Moreover,
Mr. Chief Justice, we cannot close our eyes to the repercussion of the undue
disclosure of bank records in pursuit of the Prosecution’s fishing expedition.
And yesterday’s edition of the Philippine Daily Inquirer, an article in its
front page read: ‘Equitable PCI Bank for Sale.’ In the article written by the
reporter Clarissa Batino, she clearly states that an amount of at least P30
billion has been withdrawn from the bank significantly eroding its deposit base
of P160 billion.
“I
am alarmed, Mr. Chief Justice, of these developments. If withdrawals continue
not only in Equitable PCI Bank but for all other banks called upon by this
honorable Impeachment Court to disclose their financial dealings, the net
effect would be the destruction of our banking industry and in turn hammer
another nail to our battered economy.
“This,
Mr. Chief Justice, I cannot allow such a situation to occur. I cannot allow
this Impeachment Court to be used as an instrument which causes the fall of our
banking industry and may lead to our country’s financial ruin. I cannot and
will not allow this Court, Mr. Chief Justice, to be used wittingly or
unwittingly by the Prosecution in its fishing expedition to the detriment of
our country’s economy.
Davide:
“Thank you. The honorable Senator-Judge John Osmeña.”
J.
Osmeǹa: “Thank
you, Mr. Chief Justice. The whole country or maybe, perhaps even Filipinos in
other countries are listening to us right now. And I wonder how many of them
think, listening to our colleagues, that they are listening to a political rally,
or they are listening to a legal proceeding. Because the nature, Mr. Chief
Justice and my dear colleagues, of what has been going on in this Chamber for
the last month and a half, has really been an event which has, in effect, been
an arena on two sides. On the one hand, you have the political arena.
“And
Amado Doronilla correctly observed in a recent column of the Philippine Daily
Inquirer that those who are opposed to the continued tenure of President Joseph
Ejercito Estrada are winning the public opinion back. A very, shall we say,
candid remark because he, in effect, is saying that what is going on is not
really a trial for the impeachment of the President of the Philippines, but
rather an effort to bring down the President, not by the constitutional
processes that we are actively engaged in but through the bar of public
opinion.
“And
that perhaps, Mr. President, explains why many times in this Court there are
statements by the Prosecution that it is making a proffer. It is announcing
something that it will do to subpoena the records of Citibank because the
President, his wife, the ladies that he is said to be associated with, as well
as his so-called cronies, have accounts in Citibank. And immediately, the next
day, almost all the newspapers are headlining President Estrada, Mrs. Loi
Ejercito Estrada, et cetera, et cetera, have accounts in Citibank. As if this
was gospel truth.
“This
is, of course, the arena of public opinion that is being fed by unsubstantiated
loose remarks coming from the Prosecution within this Chamber. We are therefore
being used, Mr. President. We are being used, we are being made puppets in a
show to bring about the completion, the success of an agenda that is not
provided for in the Constitution. And that is what really is the unfortunate
thing of what is going on.
“Now,
Mr. President, in this whole effort, members of the Senate are attacked by the
Prosecution. There is scoreboard there right across our very parking lot which
ridicules us. Of course, those who are perceived to be not following the
dictates of the mob.
“And,
Mr. President, we ourselves have torn upon each other. And even in the lounge
where we have our meriendas, you need not be perceptive to see how the
groupings of the Senators sitting with each other no longer show the old
environment of collegiality that was present here. Nagkakampu-kampo na tayo
doon sa (We have divided ourselves into camps at the) dining room. Those
are, shall we say, the heavy burden that we have to bear as a result of what is
going on. And I bewail this because it is unnecessary. And it would have been
totally different if there had been no TV cameras in this Hall. It would have
been totally different. And this is the result of all these cameras all over.
Cameras picking on our feet, cameras trying to catch us asleep, cameras trying
to catch us talking to each other, as if we were supposed to sit here like
stupified mummies listening to everything that is going on.
“And
so, Mr. President, tonight we are here voting on a very simple question. I
mean, this is a question that a judge in the Regional Trial Court rules on
every day. This is a question that Justices of the Court of Appeals rule on.
The rules are very simple, the rules are very clear, the facts are very clear,
but because there is TV around, this has become a big spectacle.
“Mr.
President, I would like to say that our vote tonight, even if some of us feel
that they are casting their vote on the final judgment, is not really a vote on
a final judgment. And the final judgment may or may not follow the result of
the voting tonight. And there are those, I think it would be appropriate to
say, who want to make a big issue out of this for their own purposes. So be it.
For me, Mr. President and Mr. Chief Justice, this is just a simple vote on a
simple procedural issue that is well — which is well-defined, provided for the
Rules of Evidence and all the rules that we have been following.
“So,
in conclusion, may I say, Mr. President and Mr. Chief Justice, what is this
fuss all about? Thank you.”
Davide:
“Thank you. The honorable Senator-Judge Drilon. After that, the honorable
Senator-Judge Magsaysay.”
Drilon:
“Mr. Chief Justice, my colleagues. It is quite unfortunate that my good friend,
Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile, brought up the issue again, an incident in history that
happened ten years ago. I will not deal at length on that point. I would rather
just let history and our people decide on the action of the players at that
time.
“But
let me just state that in 1990, I was placed in a situation where I had to
defend the existence of a duly constituted government. And therefore, I invoked
the law and the legal processes in order to protect the duly constituted
government. I did not take extralegal measures. I invoked a decision on the
dissenting opinion in a case decided by the Supreme Court. We follow the law;
we follow the Constitution. Let the people judge our action in history.
But
having said that, Mr. President, Mr. Chief Justice, let me now share my
position insofar as this matter in issue at hand.
The
issue here is whether or not envelope, or the contents of Envelope No. 2, is
covered or covered by the Articles of Impeachment. It is argued that these are
not covered by the Articles of Impeachment, and therefore it is immaterial and
irrelevant as argued by the Prosecution [Defense - IA], as they have done in
the past. In fact, Mr. Chief Justice, the phrase ‘irrelevant and immaterial’
would be the most popular phrase these days. Pumunta po kayo kahit saang
(You go to any) party. And unang sasabihin sa inyo (the first greeting
you get: ‘Objection, Your Honor, on ground that it is irrelevant and
immaterial.’ Buong bansa po ay halos abogado na. Ngunit ito po ngayon ang
tanong natin: Ito ba talaga ay (It seems everybody has become a lawyer. But
this is our question now: Is it really) irrelevant and immaterial?
“Sa
akin po, Kgg. na (For me, Honorable) Chief Justice, hindi po (it
is not). At Kgg. na (And Honorable) Chief Justice, sinabi niya doon
sa kaniyang (he said in his) extended opinion dated December 18, in
ordering the opening of the first sealed envelope that the objection based on
immateriality would be premature, and once the document obtained in connection
therewith are formally offered in evidence, that is the time when objections on
materiality can be, should be ruled upon. And, therefore, this issue has been
ruled upon by the Chief Jusice.
“Kaya
nga po kanina, ay hiningi ko, kung pupuwede, na ang (That is why early on I
asked, if it was possible, that the) Chief Justice muna ang siyang maghusga
dito sa ating pinag-uusapan. Dahil ito po, (would first decide on this
issue. Because the determination of) irrelevant and immaterial, ay isang
patakaran sa husgado. At sino po ang maghuhusga? Sino po ang (is a judicial
process. And who will judge? Who is the) most qualified to judge on relevance
and immateriality? It is the Chief Justice. Kaya po aking hiniling kanina,
kung maaari sana, na ang (That is why my request early on, if it was
possible that the) Chief Justice, under Rule VI of our Rules, could first
decide on this. Unfortunately, that was not possible because the motion had
already been filed.
“Has
this ruled upon by the Chief Justice? Yes, because on January 10, 2001, by
order of the Chief Justice, this document was subpoenaed. On January 10, 2001,
the Chief Justice, Chief Justice Davide, ordered, through a subpoena duces
tecum ad testificandum, that documents related to Savings Account No.
016062501-5 be produced.
“Bakit
po ayaw ng (Why the objection from the) Defense panel buksan ang
pangalawang (on the request to open the second) envelope? Maliwanag po
dahil ito ay pag-aari ni Presidente (The answer is clear, because the owner
of the account is) Joseph Ejercito Estrada. Doon po sa (In) Exhibit
‘XXX’, isang sulat, na ang sabi ni (a letter, that according to) Ocampo,
ay pinirmahan ni Pangulong (was signed by President) Estrada bilang
(as) ‘Jose Velarde.’ Ang nakalagay doon (Written there was): ‘My Savings
Account 016062501-5’ Iyan po ang sinabi ni (That’s what) Jose Velarde
(said); iyan po ang sinabi ni Pangulong (that statement came from
President) Estrada. Maliwanag po na ang (It is clear that this) account na
ito ay pag-aari ni Pangulong (is owned by President) Estrada. Inamin po
niya iyan, kaya po ayaw buksan ng Depensa iyan (He admitted to it, which is
why the Defense does not want to open it). Grounds of relevance and
materiality.
Mr.
Chief Justice, my colleagues, Envelope No. 2 is relevant and material in our
quest for truth. Envelope No. 2 is relevant and material for the credibility of
this proceeding. Envelope No. 2 is relevant and material for the credibility of
this Institution. Envelope No. 2 is relevant and material to the faith of our
people in this democracy.
Davide:
“Finally, the Chair recognizes the Honorable Senator-Judge Magsaysay.”
Magsaysay:
“Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice. Almost 50 years ago, there was an ordinary
simple man who walked this same country and worked in the same government. He
was an ordinary man, in the sense that he was not a lawyer, he was a mechanic.
But because of his trustworthiness, people trusted him, he was able to become
President. Unfortunately, that same man died in office, short of his four-year
term, at the age of 49, and that man was my father, the late President Ramon Magsaysay.
“That’s
why I’m here this evening, Mr. President, because of the name that my father
carried with dignity and with honesty. So, it is an honor for me to be here in
the Senate, to be one amongst the 22. The highest votes given by the public to
the Senate, to a senator is maybe 15 million votes. Senator Roco, in 1995,
having garnered close to 15 million votes, and the lowest among those of us
must have garnered at least 7.5 million votes.
“All
I am saying, Mr. President, is that the people voted for us–all 22 of
us–because they trusted us. So, what is governance? We are looking at this
issue of presidential leadership in crisis on the issue of governance. Because
if we do not look at this moral principle of leadership, if we are going to get
bogged down in technicalities and techniques and not substance, then we will
have lost the institution. We will have lost the reputation of us Senators
being among the best and the brightest.
“The
Senate has been the training ground for future leaders and even many
Presidents. We look around us here, the Hall, the same Hall that we are in,
produced good people like Benigno Aquino Jr., the older brother of our friend
Tessie Aquino-Oreta. The same Senate Hall produced a Gerry Roxas who, in the
martial law years, was able to say no to President Marcos. And I will read the
rest of the roll call: Jose “Pepe” Diokno, if you remember, ‘a yellow ribbon
around those trees’ Lorenzo Tañada, the father of our congressman, one of the
Prosecution Congressmen, Bobby Tañada; Claro M. Recto; Jovy Salonga. These are
just a few of those that have gone through the Senate and acquitted themselves
because they carried the trust and did not fail the Filipino people.
“Why
am I saying this, Mr. President? Because I am not a lawyer. I am an engineer. I
was in business for 25 years until I was asked by President Ramos to run for
the Senate. And I was honored because I was given the same mandate as each and every
one of us here was given the same mandate.
So,
what am I saying, Mr. President? This is the issue on moral principles of
governance. The principles of governance, which is justice, equity, openness,
honesty, integrity, trust. These are the things that you should ask for and not
be looking at techniques. The techniques of law, as my good friend here, says,
‘Gobbledygook and lots of gibberish.’
“You
look at yourself in the mirror every morning and look at your conscience. If
you will be able to look at yourself in the morning and say you have done good
to the country and for your people, then you have respected yourself.
“So,
Mr. President, this proceeding has become too politicized because a lot of us
here–maybe even me–have become partial. We have prejudged this issue. But the
main issue is, is this person in Malacañang fit to be President? Because I, my
father sacrificed his life just like Tañada, Gerry Roxas, Ninoy Aquino,
sacrificed their lives. If you will vote according to politics, that is in your
conscience.”
Davide:
“Thank you. The honorable Senator-Judge Miriam Defensor Santiago and after
that, the honorable Senator-Judge Honasan.”
Santiago:
“Mr. Chief Justice, I love a good debate just like the next lawyer. But
tonight, I am tired of all these disputations. I am weary. I want to go home to
the love of my family. Yet, as a trained lawyer, and as an advocate and
disciple of the rule of law, I know that it is my duty to stand up tonight and
affirm the fact that a society of love can exist only if it is protected by the
rule of law.
“The
law is not a litany or a series of technicality, an impression that we might
have gathered from what has been said in this Hall today. The law is the very
basis of the social contract that pulls the Filipinos together and renders them
one nation.
“Long,
long ago, the most famous litigant in the entire history of the human race was
asked by this judge: ‘Is it not true that you claim to be the king?’ And the
litigant who was not a trained lawyer stared into the face of his tormentor and
said: ‘What is the truth?’ For there are many truths. There are many realities.
“I
stand for the rule of law as I see it according to the light that has been
given to me by my Creator. No person, no group, no sector of society has a
monopoly of the truth or of the law. That is why we must learn to accept each
other’s convictions and that is why I intend that, together with the rest of my
colleagues, whom I hope will do likewise, I intend to vote out of a sense of
the shared destiny of the Filipino people.
Davide:
“Thank you. Finally, the honorable Senator-Judge Honasan.”
Honasan:
“Mr. Chief Justice, Mr. Senate President, my distinguished colleagues, I was
almost disappointed that everything I wanted to say was said in more eloquent
terms by the Honorable Judge-Senator Miriam Defensor Santiago. But I have very
little to add.
“Mr.
Chief Justice, to me this is all about the rules and following them. The
ultimate rule is the Philippine Constitution. When I rose in rebellion against
three Presidents, and what I perceived then to be corrupt and inefficient
governments, everybody told me that I had violated the Constitution and my oath
of office as a soldier.
“Mr.
President, Mr. Chief Justice, whether we open the second envelope or not, the
truth cannot be suppressed to the Filipino people. So, instead of spending time
trying to defend the Constitution, I think we should all try to follow it
first.”
Davide:
“Thank you. Anybody else?” [Silence]
“The
Chair would like to motu proprio order a suspension for ten minutes.”
It
was 9:12 P.M. Trial resumed at 9:34 P.M.
Davide:
“The trial is now resumed. There is a pending motion now duly seconded on the
issue of whether or not to open the second envelope.
“The
Honorable Senator-Judge Loren Legarda-Leviste.”
Leviste:
“Mr. Chief Justice, may I inquire at this point in time whether it would be
possible for the Presiding Officer to render–”
Davide:
“A ruling?”
Leviste:
“–a ruling despite the fact that a motion to vote has been raised by a
Senator-Judge? May I just inquire.”
Davide:
“Unless that motion duly seconded is withdrawn, the Chair cannot because the
initial authority of the Presiding Officer had been preempted by that motion
duly seconded.”
Tatad:
“Mr. Chief Justice.”
Davide:
“Yes, the Majority Leader.”
Tatad:
“Mr. Chief Justice, as movant of the motion, I believe we have gone too far. I
believe we have gone too far. We have heard almost everyone speak to the
motion, and it’s time to vote.”
Davide:
“So, let’s vote now. This should be a roll call vote.”
S.
Osmeña: “Mr. Chief Justice.”
Davide:
“The honorable Senator-Judge Sergio Osmeña III.”
S.
Osmeña: “May I respectfully move for a nominal
vote.”
Davide:
“Roll call vote. Nominal voting. The issue is whether or not to open the second
envelope. To open, the vote should be yes. Not to open, the vote should be no.
Is that clear?
“To
open, the vote should be yes, and a vote of not to open, the vote should be no.
“The
Secretary will now call the roll for the nominal voting.”
Atty. Reyes, Acting Secretary: “Honorable
Senator-Judges
“Aquino-Oreta……………. |
No |
“Barbers
…………………. |
|
“Biazon …………………. |
Yes |
Davide: “Slowly, slowly, please.”
Atty. Reyes: “Cayetano… |
Yes |
“Coseteng………………… |
No |
“Defensor-Santiago….…… |
No |
“Drilon…………………… |
Yes |
“Enrile……………….…… |
No |
“Flavier…………………. |
Yes |
“Guingona………………. |
Yes |
“Honasan…….…………. |
No |
“Jaworski…….…………. |
No |
“Legarda-Leviste………. |
Yes |
“Magsaysay
Jr…………. |
Yes |
“Ople……………………. |
No |
“Osmeña
(J)……………. |
No |
“Osmeña
(S)……………. |
Yes |
“Revilla………………… |
No |
“Roco………….………. |
Yes |
“Sotto
III………………. |
No |
“Tatad………….……… |
No |
“The Senate
President…. |
Yes |
Davide:
“What’s the vote of the Senate President?”
Pimentel:
“May I explain my vote.”
Davide:
“The Senate President may explain his vote.”
Pimentel:
“I vote to open the second envelope. I vote to do so because that is the only
way to determine whether or not the contents of the envelope are relevant or
material to the case at bar. Because of this development, Mr. Chief Justice, I
realize that the no’s have it. And therefore, I resign my presidency of the
Senate as soon as my successor is elected.”
Davide:
“Let us first announce the vote. [Applause] You have 10 yes votes and 11 no
votes. The no votes have it.”
Tatad:
“Mr. Chief Justice, before we adjourn, I move that we now approve the Journals
of the Impeachment Court of January 11 and 12, 2001, respectively.”
Davide:
“Any objection? [Silence] There being none, the motion is approved.”
Arroyo:
“Mr. Chief Justice.”
Davide:
“The Honorable Prosecutor Arroyo.”
Arroyo:
“The Prosecution reserves its right to take whatever course we have to make and
to report the matter to the House of Representatives.”
Davide:
“The reservation is noted.”
Tatad:
“Mr. Chief Justice.”
Davide:
“The Majority Leader.”
Tatad:
“I move that the Impeachment Court now stand on recess until two o’ clock
tomorrow afternoon, Wednesday, January 17, 2001.”
Davide:
“Is there any objection? [Silence] There being none, the motion is approved.
The trial is suspended until tomorrow at two o’clock in the afternoon.”
Trial suspended at 9:41 P.M.
Prosecutors walked out
But before any
formal suspension of the trial could be declared by Davide, something
unexpected has already marred the proceedings. Members of the prosecution team,
as soon as Davide announced the result of the voting, grabbed their things,
stood up, took random steps, then left, heading for the exit.
The
Senate’s session hall was in disarray. Most of the senators also stood up and
converged according to affiliation at the middle of the session hall. One
majority member, Senator Oreta, could be seen having an impromptu street jig,
with obvious delight. Some members of the minority went up the podium to hug
Pimentel, whose vote must have been a letdown for those who elected him to the
top Senate post. The gallery added ruckus to the unexpected turn of events, as
some joined the prosecutors in protest, and others erupted in jubilation.
[1] Prime time TV programs had to be pushed
back so that the networks could carry the proceedings live. The business side
of TV programming would have no problem with this: the show that the
impeachment trial has become was breaking viewer ratings records.
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